Current state of Viera and Hrothgar

[GeekyDave]

i just want the hair and fur patterns to be separate color options

Hard agree, I like the additional support that Hrothgars have gotten with the other ported hairstyles, but I seldom see use of it because of highlights being tacked on alongside the use of fur patterns.

You see I LOVE additional colors all over my body, but not my hair. My hair color is perfect the way it is.

[LinaAkayomi]

One more bump

[HeavenlyPeaches]

Bump this aswell, Are they still fixing the shoulder issue?

[Keumjo]

Happy Revenge of the 5th.
We would like our hats and hairs and better customization care, please.

[LinaAkayomi]

Bump this aswell, Are they still fixing the shoulder issue?

The current state of the shoulders is the "fix"
Please understand

[DynnDiablos]

Hard agree, I like the additional support that Hrothgars have gotten with the other ported hairstyles, but I seldom see use of it because of highlights being tacked on alongside the use of fur patterns.

You see I LOVE additional colors all over my body, but not my hair. My hair color is perfect the way it is.

See, I love the hair highlights and I hated how the original race-specific ones didn't allow for them.

[Doomed_Raven]

I know it's a lot of work getting a few thousand hat pieces and editing them so they have a hole with seams for the ears etc and then sit right on the character rig with the right sizing, but it's something they do need to get done.

For me if I ever made an alt and wanted to try a Hrothgar or Viera, losing most hats is too much. I'd also say CSIII need to sort hair and tail clipping with collars and capes, there's a lot..I guess it's a tricky balance between funding, new content and bugs/QoL. But people do appreciate bugs and QoL getting sorted (I guess hats for those races is QoL.) From another's post above, sounds like some hair options are quite limited too. A lot of people play as Viera and Hrothgar women, it'd behoove CSIII to give them some love.

[Nana_Bear]

I've never understood why, from what I hear, if someone comes up with a really good mod, gaming companies seem to almost never "buy out" the mod and tweak to incorporate their work into their game. I mean, I get it that there may be lawyers sitting in the background going "but that could lead to lawsuits from the modders," but really: these lawyers can't write an air-tight contract? And yeah, if a modder asks for a ton of bucks for their work, sure: too much; but shouldn't there be some reasonable compromise somewhere? I mean, if you can see work from modders on video/picture sites, where it looks like, basically, they did a lot of work FOR the game company, that's a big head start, right? Eg. the pics people shared here.

I have no idea of the actual ins and outs of programming, but I mean, if someone does a bunch of your work FOR you, why not buy it from them and incorporate it? It's pretty guaranteed you'll pay them far less than you'd have to pay your whole team of people to do all the work from scratch, right? Especially if you have a lot of *other* work you need your team to be doing, so buying out the modder means your devs can then put in a little more work, get the thing into the game, and *not* have to put that thing on a perpetual "back burner" that almost never materializes.

Now, if whatever system they used, code they wrote, etc., absolutely can't be incorporated without a ton of work from your own devs... well, saying no to that is fair, but surely that's not always the case?

Anyway, I have to say that when I went to create a Hrothgal character, I was unpleasantly surprised to see things like so few hair options and of the ones on offer, that they were *locked* to certain faces. It was a real bummer, after all the excitement of *finally getting* Hrothgals. Also, I found the color palettes extremely limited, and the places with Hroths in general where color was tied to several body parts in rather weird ways? Just sad.

As for hats, well I feel for you, Hroths and Buns. At least the new cosmo helmets did include your ears (though the suits removed everyone's tails, yikes---lots of "tails down the pants leg," I guess).

Maybe the devs and Yoshi should look for more vids/pics out there on the web, to see mods out there that the game *might* benefit from them buying out the mods, if the stuff would actually incorporate with the game fairly easily?

I mean, if my neighbor bakes me an apple pie for dessert and all I have to do is provide the ice cream to go with it (and I wasn't going to be able to make one myself because I was too busy cooking the rest of the dinner), I'd be happy to pay them for a good pie, right? (Trying to wrap my elderly brain around why companies turn down work from outsiders that, if it *did* work in-system, would likely make a lot of their player base very happy, with things they've been begging to get for a long time, with minimal work on the company's part... as seems to be the case here?)

[LinaAkayomi]

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The response to that could be simple corporate greed, or just an utter lack of care. Maybe they're not even aware of the community using such tools to begin with.
It's probably a mix of all these, and then some.
Sadly, there's nothing to do but wait for them to release more hats progressively. Other than voicing our frustrations, there's not much else we can do.

[LinaAkayomi]

Moving this thread up again