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    Blizzard is stealing SE ideas......BUT

    They are making them SO MUCH BETTER! I tried WoW's "Trust system" and bruh... you can actually give them orders like have the Tank Take the lead and just pull mobs

    Now they about to do Housing... I wonder what improvements they going to do.


    YoshyP Take notes and DO BETTER!
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    All MMOs take inspiration from each other so I wouldn't exactly call it stealing. It will, however, be interesting to see what Blizzard do with player housing given that they're pretty much the last major MMO that'll be implementing this system. Plus given that they're still the main MMO on the market, not having XIV's FOMO mechanics in their housing systems could become a nice stick to use against Square Enix in getting some tangible changes to XIV's housing system. Whatever happens, the FFXIV players still need to write proper feedback and suggestions in the channels recommended by the developers.
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    You can give orders to squadrons. The reason you can't give orders to Trusts is because you aren't their commander; you are their friend. This was the exact reasoning provided by Yoshi-P in one of his hundreds of interviews over the years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    not having XIV's FOMO mechanics in their housing systems could become a nice stick to use against Square Enix in getting some tangible changes to XIV's housing system
    Everyone wants to paint the housing FOMO as a "tactic" by SE. But that's giving them way too much credit. It's completely due to incompetence in the ability to create a dynamic housing system that actually provides enough houses for everyone. In a way they provide a lot across all the worlds (including low pop worlds), but they don't allow you to travel between housing areas of different physical machines and get a house on them seamlessly, which results in too much demand on the most populated worlds. The result of this is players without a house demand a FOMO system to remove "inactive" house owners so they can get a house themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You can give orders to squadrons. The reason you can't give orders to Trusts is because you aren't their commander; you are their friend. This was the exact reasoning provided by Yoshi-P in one of his hundreds of interviews over the years.

    Of course hes going to give that reason.. he cant be saying "guy reason why you cant control the npcs in Trust is because we dont know how to"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    Of course hes going to give that reason.. he cant be saying "guy reason why you cant control the npcs in Trust is because we dont know how to"
    They've done it already because squadrons have commands and in solo battles for the MSQ, all your team have run ahead and done their thing automatically, so it would just be attaching those two things together. They chose not to. Most likely because they see the "button" as you approaching the boss so that the tank can pull it.

    If they did this, you could let it go and fight all the bosses while you're AFK which is unattended gameplay. The current method makes it simple to just stop and read lore or appreciate the area as well, without needing to press any buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They've done it already because squadrons have commands and in solo battles for the MSQ, all your team have run ahead and done their thing automatically, so it would just be attaching those two things together. They chose not to. Most likely because they see the "button" as you approaching the boss so that the tank can pull it.

    If they did this, you could let it go and fight all the bosses while you're AFK which is unattended gameplay. The current method makes it simple to just stop and read lore or appreciate the area as well, without needing to press any buttons.
    Yes and no. The squadrons allow you to advise the tank to attack the target (which then will start aoeing anyways like a tank would)-- but not the ability to lead the dungeon in the same way the tanks do in WoW (wow has a "dungeon assistance" mode where the tank will continue the way forward. if youre too far from the tank, they stop until you get within the distance of them before they start running again and continuing the dungeon like a real tank would). It's a terribly flawed system that they refuse to address. With as much funds as this game gives to Squeenix, yoship just cant get those funds to keep the game updated even further than where it's already at (which is still way behind the times).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    Of course hes going to give that reason.. he cant be saying "guy reason why you cant control the npcs in Trust is because we dont know how to"
    Jeeq always has an excuse

    But like how FFXI was basically a trove of stolen ideas from Everquest by SE's own admission, FFXIV is basically a host of stolen ideas from WoW, also by SE's own admission, so it's fair that they steal a little back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Jeeq always has an excuse

    But like how FFXI was basically a trove of stolen ideas from Everquest by SE's own admission, FFXIV is basically a host of stolen ideas from WoW, also by SE's own admission, so it's fair that they steal a little back.
    They should have kept stealing ideas then. Yoshi-P trying to make FFXIV his own these last few expansions have brought the quality of the game down severely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The reason you can't give orders to Trusts is because you aren't their commander; you are their friend.
    This is the lamest excuse I've seen regarding trusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is the lamest excuse I've seen regarding trusts.
    Facts... I give my friends commands in IRL lmao
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