Blizzard is stealing SE ideas......BUT

[Purrnauskis]

Why not both? It's not like we have so much content we can't keep up lol. Variety is the spice of life.

Realistically because Sqenix apparently doesn't have the manpower or resources to make all that content. I mean it took them 5? months to come up with few "talk to Y NPC" quests, add few mechanics to a pre-existing trial and 1 corridor dungeon.

[Chasingstars]

That $90 brontosaur while overly expensive in pricing isn't even close to the death of a million small micro-tranactions ff14 is.

Yeah but that $90 Brontosaur mount, which comes with a vendor and access to the auction house while mounted, used to be a thing that only costed 6 million gold in-game originally and was available to everyone to buy it at any time. Then they decided to make it severely limited so that only by buying it from the black market npc, if it showed up at all at that time, could you buy it with in-game gold. However on the black market, people would it often it bid up to gold cap, aka 10 million gold. And then we get to the shop where they sell a solution to you, for $90 you can have the mount instead of using the black market, a solution from a problem they created.

This sets a precendent that Blizzard can put any mount on the shop if they wanted to that was originally available through in-game means. Where has FFXIV done that?

[Purrnauskis]

This sets a precendent that Blizzard can put any mount on the shop if they wanted to that was originally available through in-game means. Where has FFXIV done that?

Except it doesn't because it's not the same longboi now is it? How many invincibles,scarab lord, Anu'relos etc do you see in the store? And u can literally still go buy the mount from black market. The 90 buck store mount is infact, cheaper than the old one if u were to compare the price in WoW tokens. Not that I really care because I don't own either and never will because mounts for me are whatever.

[Chasingstars]

Except it doesn't because it's not the same longboi now is it?

Okay a different model, still the same functionality of a portable aunction house that was the main selling of it

How many invincibles,scarab lord, Anu'relos etc do you see in the store?

And what makes you think they won't sell an invincible or a scarab lord on the shop?

And u can literally still go buy the mount from black market.

Oh look different day, same shit from Blizzard. They sell you time savers. In this case avoiding have to deal with the rng of the black market and of having to bid with other players.

[AnimaAnimus]

Realistically because Sqenix apparently doesn't have the manpower or resources to make all that content. I mean it took them 5? months to come up with few "talk to Y NPC" quests, add few mechanics to a pre-existing trial and 1 corridor dungeon.

That just means SE needs to up their game if they want to stay competitive. If they would give the game the money and time it deserves, they could easily do something of this small scale.

This sets a precendent that Blizzard can put any mount on the shop if they wanted to that was originally available through in-game means. Where has FFXIV done that?

Literally every mount made available from seasonal events. And that doesn't even count the ones they just slapped a new coat of paint on and tried to sell it as something new, like the Bennu mount or the Red Baron and White Devil mounts.

Oh look different day, same shit from Blizzard. They sell you time savers. In this case avoiding have to deal with the rng of the black market and of having to bid with other players.

SE also does this tho. The level boosts, story skips, retainer boosts, and now an exp earring too all of that is just time saver stuff. You can try to demonize Blizz, but SE does the same thing. What makes one bad and one not?

[Purrnauskis]

Okay a different model, still the same functionality of a portable aunction house that was the main selling of it

And what makes you think they won't sell an invincible or a scarab lord on the shop?

Oh look different day, same shit from Blizzard. They sell you time savers. In this case avoiding have to deal with the rng of the black market and of having to bid with other players.

I mean it's just a mount that u don't even need so it's crazy to me that people are losing their mind over it. Is portable AH nice? sure. Is it required? lol no. And if one person in a group has the mount thats enough to use it if u need it but realistically this is mostly just useful for gold goblins. What is Invincible again? Basically a reskinned horse but its not like Invincible's worth suddenly got downgraded because of that or the fact it's a generic flying mount like every other mount in the game and u can still acquire it by doing LK.

And they won't sell either of those because they are prestigious mounts, especially scarab lord and they wouldve done it already if they planned on it. They are not comparable to a longboi which was not a special mount other than the pricetag and utility it offered.

[Chasingstars]

Literally every mount made available from seasonal events.

Oh right those, I concede on that, at least those are usually only $12 in comparison to $90 for a Brontosaur.

SE also does this tho. The level boosts, story skips, retainer boosts, and now an exp earring too all of that is just time saver stuff. You can try to demonize Blizz, but SE does the same thing. What makes one bad and one not?

Because Blizzard was doing it first. The level boosts for World of Warcraft were part of Warlords of Draenor in 2014. FFXIV didn't start doing that until 2017. And Warlords of Draenor at the time was considered one of the worst expansions, only later topped by Shadowlands.

And just to further point out, the whole selling of mounts in shops, that was Blizzard first as well with Celestial Steed. It was notable at the time, as it was the first account-wide mount that was both a ground mount and a flying mount.

[Chasingstars]

I mean it's just a mount that u don't even need

I bet you anything if FFXIV had a portable retainer and auction house access on a mount, it would be one of the fastest selling things on the shop. Because having in-game features beyond just being a mount is valuable to players.

[Vintersol]

What makes one bad and one not?

One has removed a mount for no reason to skyrocket the urge to buy WoW Tokens to get the 5 Million Gold right before the given mount got removed. Now reintroducing the same mount with an additional feature on the shop is just a tyical Blizzard-Dick Move.

[AnimaAnimus]

Oh right those, I concede on that, at least those are usually only $12 in comparison to $90 for a Brontosaur.

Because Blizzard was doing it first. The level boosts for World of Warcraft were part of Warlords of Draenor in 2014. FFXIV didn't start doing that until 2017. And Warlords of Draenor at the time was considered one of the worst expansions, only later topped by Shadowlands.

And just to further point out, the whole selling of mounts in shops, that was Blizzard first as well with Celestial Steed. It was notable at the time, as it was the first account-wide mount that was both a ground mount and a flying mount.

Well yeah Blizz did it first. That is like being mad for your dad doing something first. WoW is an old man in the mmo world, esp with mounts. Just because a game did it first, when it was already 10 years old when this game came around, doesn't make it worse. If blizz also introduced level skips in 2014 that was already over 10 years into its life cycle and it's 5th expansion, compared to 4 yearrs and 3 expansions into XIV's lfie cycle, which is a lot sooner. So I still say you are just reaching for a reason to hate on blizz because you just want to hate on it.

And Bethesda actually did it first in 2006 with the horse armor dlc which set the precedent for these sorts of shenanigans. iirc the celestial steed didnt come out until 2010.

There are plenty of reasons to hate on both SE and Blizz, no need to reach so hard to find something. you're gonna pull something lol.