Blizzard is stealing SE ideas......BUT

[Astronema]

Wait lets think... large would be nice I won't doubt this but lets do some math. All plots being about 50 mil god forbid they make u pay venue price aka location but lets say they do that it would mean you have to spend 50-80 mil. Out side of big names youtubers, omni crafters, and gil heavy fc that means a normal person would not be able to get a house.....I sense gate keeping.

That's not how property assessment works in real life. The land and building have separate values which are combined for a final value. Where in game does a large plot cost 80m? https://zhu.codes/paissa

[lolnotacat]

That's not how property assessment works in real life. The land and building have separate values which are combined for a final value. Where in game does a large plot cost 80m? https://zhu.codes/paissa

Also 80m isn't that difficult to get as long as you're not spending all your gil on glams or orchestrion rolls the day they release.

Protip: Sell items when they release, buy items at the end of a patch cycle.

[Kohashi]

They are making them SO MUCH BETTER! I tried WoW's "Trust system" and bruh... you can actually give them orders like have the Tank Take the lead and just pull mobs

Now they about to do Housing... I wonder what improvements they going to do.


YoshyP Take notes and DO BETTER!

I would just be happy for them to have a proper rotation and a full set of spells. They do hold aggro and they do a decent job in the dungeon otherwise.

[WaifuLoli]

Last time WoW devs talked about housing they said they were waiting for an expansion where it can be connected to the content (like garrisons). This shows they didn't understand what player housing is. It's that home you go back to regardless of what job you are currently doing. It needs to be equally relevant regardless of current content. It needs to be optional in that it can't be required for progression in other content. We'll see if Blizzard learned anything. Even though the housing system in FFXIV has problems, at least they understand its purpose.

They did have a small interview where they claimed housing is supposed to be evergreen content that gets updated through patches and the garrisons were never designed to be player housing, but a function you used to wage war against the Iron Horde. They even said the new housing content is supposed to avoid having a personal instanced environment because that detracts from the social aspect. They never seemed to claim garrisons as "housing" at any point but since its the closest thing to it in WoW, most people are acting like that was some attempt at it when it was just some expansion only function.

[BunnyQueen]

They are making them SO MUCH BETTER! I tried WoW's "Trust system" and bruh... you can actually give them orders like have the Tank Take the lead and just pull mobs

Now they about to do Housing... I wonder what improvements they going to do.


YoshyP Take notes and DO BETTER!

Not to mention healing in WoW is engaging and fun! Healing in FF14 dungeons is well...... What healing is there to do? They have lobotomized healing in FF14.

[Johners]

Last time WoW devs talked about housing they said they were waiting for an expansion where it can be connected to the content (like garrisons). This shows they didn't understand what player housing is. It's that home you go back to regardless of what job you are currently doing. It needs to be equally relevant regardless of current content. It needs to be optional in that it can't be required for progression in other content. We'll see if Blizzard learned anything. Even though the housing system in FFXIV has problems, at least they understand its purpose.

Ion Hazzikostas who is the senior game director for WoW has had several interviews since the announcement of player housing and he's said in multiple that no player power will be associated with the system. They're also planning for it be to an evergreen feature that'll evolve with the patches and expansions after initial implementation. They're not ready to share any actual details on what the system will actually be like though.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/taliesi...-goblin-350719

[Dante131]

as a noob in WoW i learned how diffrent the devs are in implementing the same thing.

- trust / follower are more or less the same beside of you can tell the tank lead the way so do what a tank do lol you can fill up the party with NPCs which is nice if someone maybe want to see the dungeon first and a friend wants to join them
- they picked a mount system of GW2 and evolved it what is now sky riding which i admit is FUN its a brilliant feeling to fly fast with a dragon over a big overworld.
- they kinda took fates and made it an weekly activity for catch up with some gear ( a system 14 is generally lacking ) but this might be an issue that gear doesnt matter in this game.
- They even took the approach to make a good mmo story with TWW now
- "Dance" for the one who dont know the new raidtier is more of a "dance" now which reminds me a lot of 14 from mechanics and resolves
- Finally the players housing is announced a system wished for so many years now i cant see how it can be bad probably will be a mix between GW2 and 14 maybe even a bit like Archeage
- The last point and after 8 years with 14 this one hurts me the most is listening ...

Yes i really just wrote that. Sadly 14 dont give me the vibe of we are listening to our players anymore. Every time yoshi speaks about the state of the game its more PR critical management talk then anything else. Problems are existing for years now without a comment of fixing them. Examples ? sure

- Viera hats
- MCH state
- Healer state
- difficulty
- midcore content
- Hope story will not be one of those in future

and so on. They even started the dev talks more often and by returning of the one guy from earlier dont know Chris Matson i think ? it might get even better.
The problem will be in the future for 14 to create or overwork something to get back on top. People will think why should i play 14 if the others do much better. Housing was a long time a USP for this game besides of the story.
well i dont want too start DT discussions now but if you compare DT too TWW or even janthir wilds you clearly see that this is not on the best spot either. Dont get me and prob the OP wrong. We dont hate the game we dont want the game to fail we just want the game beeing better.

[Jeeqbit]

People will think why should i play 14 if the others do much better.

Among other reasons, there is one simple reason some will continue to play. It's an FF game. That's it.

No matter how good WoW gets, the aesthetic just doesn't appeal to me.

[Johners]

Among other reasons, there is one simple reason some will continue to play. It's an FF game. That's it.

No matter how good WoW gets, the aesthetic just doesn't appeal to me.

You can enjoy FFXIV as a single player FF title while actively not engaging in the MMO live service that Square Enix build the game around.

Here's a rough list:

• Buy the expansion during x.55 so you can binge all the content at once. It'll usually be on sale for 50% off at this point.
• Buy 2-3 months of subscription upfront to save some money.
• Never buy cash store items.
• Avoid spoilers while waiting for x.55 by muting/unfollowing all the official social media channels.
• Furthermore, don't follow any of the FFXIV specific content creators to further reduce spoiler risk. Less people watching them might also force them to stop covering the game as much or entirely.

Every person that employs some or all of these tactics will only push more players in this direction. That should either then force Square Enix to improve the game or put it into maintenance mode.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Wait lets think... large would be nice I won't doubt this but lets do some math. All plots being about 50 mil god forbid they make u pay venue price aka location but lets say they do that it would mean you have to spend 50-80 mil. Out side of big names youtubers, omni crafters, and gil heavy fc that means a normal person would not be able to get a house.....I sense gate keeping.

While I doubt they’ll ever go back and redesign the existing neighborhoods like this (or create entirely new designs of wards), it really would be nice to have upgradeable plots that are the same size, with the size of the actual house being changeable. (Another thing instanced housing could give us! Just saying! lol)

But if they did, theoretically… plots sizes are the way they are now because of size plus location. You also pay for a permit to actually build a house on the plot. So I could see there being a low base cost for a plot, maybe fluctuating slightly between their different location-based “rank tiers,” with the larger cost then being the permit since that would determine the house size and item limits. (Because I’m sure they wouldn’t have a small house on a large yard with large item limits!) So probably something like 3 mil plot fee (the current cheapest small under the new system), then permits would be like small 2 mil, medium 12 mil, large 47 mil.