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    Not sure why the comments are being so dismissive of this. Photosensitivity and seizure disorders are meant to be taken into account when designing video games, this isn't some niche issue that only "babies" have. Do you guys think epilepsy is a choice?
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    Last edited by sylphlands; 11-16-2024 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylphlands View Post
    Not sure why the comments are being so dismissive of this. Photosensitivity and seizure disorders are meant to be taken into account when designing video games, this isn't some niche issue that only "babies" have. Do you guys think epilepsy is a choice?
    SE doesn't seem to think people have those issue since each patch everything becomes more and more flashier.
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    You can turn all effects off? Though I agree the absolute explosion of effects could be tuned down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    You can turn all effects off? Though I agree the absolute explosion of effects could be tuned down a bit.
    You can only turn off effects from everyone else + yourself if you fancy that, but you cannot turn that off for enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    SE doesn't seem to think people have those issue since each patch everything becomes more and more flashier.
    I did Copied Factory for the first time since DT came out, after doing the new alliance earlier the same day, and this was especially noticeable and frustrating. The new one has so much glow and bloom on effects it's awful.
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    People on both sides here are acting like fixing the accessibility issue has to change anything for people who don't have health conditions. It doesn't, they are called optional settings. Things like this should be an optional toggle, nothing more or less. If you choose to (optionally) toggle it then it'll adjust the colours and intensity of certain affects and that way people with certain conditions can still be supported and people without experience no loss of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    People on both sides here are acting like fixing the accessibility issue has to change anything for people who don't have health conditions. It doesn't, they are called optional settings. Things like this should be an optional toggle, nothing more or less. If you choose to (optionally) toggle it then it'll adjust the colours and intensity of certain affects and that way people with certain conditions can still be supported and people without experience no loss of content.
    Absolutely, yes. But people are acting like this because of the recent mount and character tilt changes, when we got an option to turn it off, but when it’s on it’s barely noticeable and to me feels like as if it’s turned off. And also the fact that the devs make the game super easy in general, without providing any threatening content. Yeah raids may be hard and challenging but after a few clears you just autopilot it because of how scripted they are, and if you make a mistake it’s not threatening, it’s just an instant wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    People on both sides here are acting like fixing the accessibility issue has to change anything for people who don't have health conditions. It doesn't, they are called optional settings. Things like this should be an optional toggle, nothing more or less. If you choose to (optionally) toggle it then it'll adjust the colours and intensity of certain affects and that way people with certain conditions can still be supported and people without experience no loss of content.
    This.

    The thing is, we now do have a mount toggle, it's just that the devs implemented it in a really clumsy way that's not representative of well-done accessibility options.
    For incomprehensible reasons they decided to nerf the existing tilt as well. This would not have been necessary and is not an unavoidable consequence of adding accessibility settings. It's just a strange, deliberate design decision. It would have been perfectly possible to leave the tilt the way it was in 7.0 and still implement a toggle. There you go. Accessibility for those who have motion sickness, fun visual effect for those who don't.

    I really don't think video games need to lose features that make them fun in order to address negative effects on some people's physical well-being. You can simply give people the option to turn them off (esp. for people with serious health concerns, we are talking about epilepsy here among other things, like come on).

    Sekiro even has a toggle for turning blood effects on and off. This has zero effect on people who like blood effects but also serves those who don't want them. Both sides get what they want. Nothing is taken away.

    There's a reason why you often have explicit epilepsy warnings before some video games or movies. These things matter and addressing them doesn't have to come at the expense of those who don't suffer from them.
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    Last edited by Loggos; 11-17-2024 at 01:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    There's a reason why you often have explicit epilepsy warnings before some video games or movies.
    Perhaps this is what needs to be implemented. It's a game about fantasy fights with spells/explosions/giant monsters/epic battles. I do agree people should be warned it will be visually messy. What I don't want is the game being more neutered than it already is. They already nerfed the tilt feature just recently.

    The last think I want is a fight that now doesnt have explosions, that doesn't have movement, that doesn't have color, or content removed because it causes people anxiety, or monsters removed because people have phobias to them. Remember how they changed the SGE logo because of people with trypophobia or something? Next thing we won't have spiders, or what not.

    And all this costs DEV resources to move or modify things they already implemented instead of making new content of which there is barely any now a days. And thus the complexity of making anything new just bloats and bloats. So I 100% agree people should be warned, but I think the game needs to be designed in a way where it's fun for the mass market.

    I like big explosions, I liked the big tilt that's barely there anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Perhaps this is what needs to be implemented. It's a game about fantasy fights with spells/explosions/giant monsters/epic battles. I do agree people should be warned it will be visually messy. What I don't want is the game being more neutered than it already is. They already nerfed the tilt feature just recently.

    The last think I want is a fight that now doesnt have explosions, that doesn't have movement, that doesn't have color, or content removed because it causes people anxiety, or monsters removed because people have phobias to them. Remember how they changed the SGE logo because of people with trypophobia or something? Next thing we won't have spiders, or what not.

    And all this costs DEV resources to move or modify things they already implemented instead of making new content of which there is barely any now a days. And thus the complexity of making anything new just bloats and bloats. So I 100% agree people should be warned, but I think the game needs to be designed in a way where it's fun for the mass market.

    I like big explosions, I liked the big tilt that's barely there anymore.
    I think you're being hyperbolic, your game won't vanish into thin air if they added accessibility OPTIONS. The game isn't being neutured because 'muh disabled peepo are ruining muh game'. Adding accessibility options to players shouldn't make it worse.

    They decided that the mount tilt was excessive but people are using others who felt motion sick from mount tilt as scape goats and people to blame for the game being 'worse' it's honestly disgusting.

    Stop trying to point fingers.
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