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    please address the 100 Trial (and EX) being major motion sickess/epilepsy trigger!

    hi there!

    i am posting this to bring attention to the level 100 trial and its VFX effects. i am someone who deals with severe motion sickness and is in the process of being diagnosed with a neurological condition that causes my motion sickness. i am a long time fan, but this is something that affects my ability to play and enjoy the game and i often try to separate myself from things that are intense visually so i don't trigger episodes.

    however, the 100 trial is mandatory MSQ content, and therefore unavoidable. my first time playing through the trial, i had a horrible motion sickness episode that resulted in me not being able to play the game for several hours afterwards due to dizziness and migraine. i was able to complete the trial after a wonderful and very understanding party experience, but i dread queuing for Trials roulette knowing that i could possibly get the 100 Trial. i often drop out of the party if i get the trial because i cannot subject myself to a motion sickness episode for the sake of a roulette. i have also resigned myself to the fact that i will likely never be able to complete the 100 trial EX because of the visuals, which is a shame, because i really do like doing EX content!

    as a long time player of this game, i am pretty disappointed!! i personally only experience problems with motion sickness, but there are people out there who play FFXIV that struggle with migraines, vertigo, and even seizures who are also forced to attempt to finish MSQ by beating their head into a Trial that is a risk to their health. i also know this is not the only instance in which the dev team has included visuals that are dangerous to those with epilepsy (the final Nier raid is what first comes to mind, i am sure there are plenty others), and it is disappointing that this sort of thing is not even taken into consideration when making these fights.

    at the very least, i would like for there to be a "photosensitivity" mode that allows you to disable or weaken these visuals for the game in general. we're allowed to disabled player skill animations and VFX, so i feel as if making the visuals in fights as a toggle-able setting wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility.

    by posting this, i hope there are others that share similar disabilities and sensitivities to visuals that will share their experiences and share similar sentiments to how these visuals affect their ability to play the game. and i hope SE will respond in a way that is helpful and empathetic.
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    Last edited by mantaroo; 11-16-2024 at 10:11 AM. Reason: fixed some grammatical errors and spelling

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    I'ma be real. It might not be worth it to do these fights if ur feeling that way. The new ex rotation is cool but if they have to change it due to that ur punishing us as well. Yeah i get its a problem you have but i dont share motion sickness. So it feels like the game were trying to have fun with is being forced to belcome stagnant on ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    I'ma be real. It might not be worth it to do these fights if ur feeling that way. The new ex rotation is cool but if they have to change it due to that ur punishing us as well. Yeah i get its a problem you have but i dont share motion sickness. So it feels like the game were trying to have fun with is being forced to belcome stagnant on ideas.
    Yikes. Talk about lack of empathy.

    Anyway, I think this really is an issue that should be addressed. It wouldn't be the first time they have needed to adjust things due to how it affects people. OP is definitely not the only one experiencing this as I've seen a few other posts here and on Reddit discussing this same matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimen View Post
    Yikes. Talk about lack of empathy.

    Anyway, I think this really is an issue that should be addressed. It wouldn't be the first time they have needed to adjust things due to how it affects people. OP is definitely not the only one experiencing this as I've seen a few other posts here and on Reddit discussing this same matter.
    Ih believe me i do lack empathy for strangers but this is the same forum that had ppl like you guys complainingabout savage difficulty, and msq difficulty last thing allot of us want is for our experience of fun to be ruined. Hate to tell u but ppl thumbs up that comment means they agree with the sentiment.
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    I'ma be real. It might not be worth it to do these fights if ur feeling that way. The new ex rotation is cool but if they have to change it due to that ur punishing us as well. Yeah i get its a problem you have but i dont share motion sickness. So it feels like the game were trying to have fun with is being forced to belcome stagnant on ideas.
    bro-- we had the same issue with the Nier raid series, and it was tuned properly to avoid the issues with seizures after people started falling like flies to it. The fights can still be fun, just update the adjusted colors and motion and you'd barely notice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    bro-- we had the same issue with the Nier raid series, and it was tuned properly to avoid the issues with seizures after people started falling like flies to it. The fights can still be fun, just update the adjusted colors and motion and you'd barely notice it.
    I have never heard this before but if they did thats fine the mechanics are still there, you forgot that part. Also I dont suffer siezures so I wouldn't know that. Bought the most issues I have with fames is thalassaphobia and im not on forum demanding for square enix to remove under water portions of map. I still try to push under water. So yeah.......
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    hi! i was not at all referring to the EX exclusively. i can simply not do the EX, i understand that entirely, lol. it sucks but it is what it is. it is optional content and i do not have to do it.

    but, the trial itself is MSQ mandatory. i there was no way i could just NOT don the normal version, because the game MAKES you do it to progress the story. i literally would have just had to straight up stop playing the game and stop progressing the story, and stop doing trials roulette for the risk of getting ONE trial out of dozens that cause me episodes. and seeing as i have been playing this game for a very long time, i have no interest in giving it up simply because SE made a questionable choice in visual effects. this is why i added at the end, that i wish they would add a toggle that allows you to disable these sorts of effects in instanced content, like they do with player effects, so that everyone can tune the game to their liking. thank you for responding, though.
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    I'm still mad we lost mount tilt because people complaining about motion sickness. This game going to crap cause they are babies there I said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirwen View Post
    I'm still mad we lost mount tilt because people complaining about motion sickness. This game going to crap cause they are babies there I said it.
    The following additions and adjustments have been made to the tilt effect when moving:
    • Character tilt when turning has been added.
    • Character tilt when turning while riding a mount has been added.
    • The speed at which certain mounts tilt when turning has been decreased.
    • Mount and character tilt can now be toggled on or off.
      - Adjust tilt settings via the Character Configuration menu by selecting Control Settings followed by the Character tab, then checking or unchecking the options under "Effects While in Motion."
    The tilt is still there, it just isn't turning as hard when you start turning in one direction. It also doesn't count for all mounts.
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    Yeah I have to say everytime they do anything people come out to complain about this and that, and I feel for everyone out there with their specific health issues but I don't think they can design anything anymore of they take them all into account.
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