Disappointed With XIV Direction

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]Having a kit with more buttons doesn't change that, as most of the fight design is about learning mechanics and maintaining uptime. The rotation is not the engaging part, as most people have them in muscle memory.

So.... ARR/HW job kits functions similarly as today's? Is that it? :/

[Garnix]

So.... ARR/HW job kits functions similarly as today's? Is that it? :/

Not exactly, it had a bit more room for player skill expression. But ultimately, I am really doubting that this is what would make people "click" better with the game.
I agree with you all that job design should improve though, that's undeniable.
I am just very much doubting that this would change the early game experience much.
I think the fights design is much more linked to that experience than the job design.

[IDontPetLalas]

Not exactly, it had a bit more room for player skill expression. But ultimately, I am really doubting that this is what would make people "click" better with the game.
I agree with you all that job design should improve though, that's undeniable.
I am just very much doubting that this would change the early game experience much.
I think the fights design is much more linked to that experience than the job design.

Imagine if a game had a scale between 1-10 for both job design and fight design. Now, I will stick, for the moment to just normal and mid-core content - so , up to extreme, for PVE, also including PvP design .

I would give FFXIV a 3, maybe a 4 if I'm feeling particularly generous, on a given day, for job design. I would give fight design a 4.

Well, this may not relate exactly with your comment, but I'll try to explain what I like, I why DT is now less enjoyable for me:


For jobs: there is no/little skill expression- there is one *right* way to play each job, with no choice whatsoever, and that one way is supposed to fit all encounter difficulties and all content types/party sizes, party compositions. If you don't like that way- too bad. If the dev team makes a poor design choice- too bad- wait --- way too long

For fight design: do you like to dodge? would you like to dodge more and more stuff? yes, this is the peak of fight design! forget unique dungeon designs, or roles.. or puzzles. I never thought the day would come when I would miss the math boss, but it has come.

So in very early game experience - I would be looking at the job design more than the fight design, personally, however I would , as I progress expect more of the fight design to creep in and impact the player experience. Personally I would prefer more complexity in the jobs even if that means less complexity in the encounters, there are probably other people who would completely disagree.