Housing in World of Warcraft

[Kes13a]

Don't care about housing but I hope for the sake of others that it will not be Garrison 2.0 but I think they learnt from that mistake.

But considering WoW already pretty much does everything better than FFXIV I wouldn't be surprised if its better. Maybe it will actually let you also transmog inside the house unlike FFXIV LMAO

And anyone coping that FFXIV housing is such a mess because of the engine is delusional. WoW engine is based on a 20-year old code and gets updated each expansion. Sqenix is just lazy.

does everything...better?

maybe you might want to check out some of there other.. "features" such as losing ENTIRE guild bank contents. some guilds going all the way back to the beginning... lost.. everything. some got stuff back.. some didnt. yeah... great game. great company. their releases are usually bug ridden messes, back when I still played you didnt plan on playing the first week of a release, simply because it was usually unplayable. I wouldnt say that its better over there by any stretch of the imagination.

[Kandraxx]

Knowing Blizzard, this feature is either going to become the sole reason that people play the game, or a novelty that is looked at once and never touched again

Guild Wars 2 released housing this year and it basically became the center of the whole game, it's actually a dangerous path to go down if your game is already suffering from content problems. To me this seems like a last ditch effort to squeeze a couple more months or micro transactions out of people, at least in 14 it was an integral part dating way back.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Would be nice if it actually inspired XIV to create an instanced housing system, so that all players could have a house regardless of what server they play on. No need to scrap the existing neighborhoods, just add something else for those that are either left out due to poor luck in the lotto, or just want more spaces to decorate. Because only the interiors are instanced, and the wards themselves have to be permanently loaded, it’s not really cost effective to just throw out new wards all the time.

Too soon to tell exactly what all WOW’s housing is going to include, but I would love to have a similar system to ESO, just for the sheer variety in sizes and styles of housing. There’s so many possibilities of places in Eorzea that could be used for home styles, especially in the new zones… without going into spoilers, big tents, domes, new styles of houses… Or from previous expansions, think of a townhouse in Ishgard, a bio dome on the moon, a cave like a certain sorceress has, an oversized hippo cart/caravan or a cabin somewhere in Dravania. So many gorgeous places in this game world we could call home!

And yes, ESO’s does have some of their stuff in the cash shop, but a lot of it is free or purchased with in-game currency, plus they don’t require a sub either. For a game like XIV where we are paying a sub every month, most options could be free and then they could put the super large spaces on Mogstation for a one-time fee.

I really think they need to take a hard look at what keeps the largest chunk of the player base logging in daily even when the content for a given patch runs out… their characters, glam and housing. All of these need some real TLC right now. Recent updates are a step in the right direction, but it’s baby steps and some changes (especially character updates) have been problematic.

[Elissar]

Personally, the ideal housing system i imagine is a mixture between ESO, LOTRO, Wildstar and FFXIV.


The idea of neighborhood isn't bad..but barely works. The lack of features accessible from the house makes it less interesting and in the end is just like glam/transmog system for buildings (with some custom minigames here and there thanks to our passionate community). The lottery system "solves" a problem they shouldn't have if the feature was better implemented... and we still have that weird demolition system.



FFXIV housing system feels more like The Sims 2 (from PS2) than an actual housing system built for a MMORPG (as an immersive experience).


How i would make it:


1 - Lavender Beds, Goblets, etc..should be made EXCLUSIVE FOR FREE COMPANIES AND THEIR ALLIES ONLY. They would be way more expensive and less available. Rooms should be physical and not just another instanced room, exactly like a mansion. Shared content should be created.


2 - Players could have: 1) their apartments and 2) house in open-world districts. Every map next to a capital should have such districts. Imagine you teleport to Benchbranch Meadows, use your mount and move to a place where your house and other houses is. Layers system could make it possible. You see people traveling across the same region, etc...the idea is making the world more alive and immersive, better yet, imagine such system in II Mheg. Occasionally they could spawn fates from higher levels next to your district and even create a system where enemies (from the void, other factions, thing like that) tries to destroy your district (better than a weird virtual demolition system, at least you could defend yourself or someone else could help you).
Each district could have a place with exclusive buffs. Such buffs could be made available by: cooking specific ingredients, voting, etc. Giving some identity to each place "if you like crafting more than combat, buy a plot in X district of Sea of Clouds".


Nowadays, people spend more time AFK in Ul'dah, Limsa, D9....than inside their own houses.

[Purrnauskis]

does everything...better?

maybe you might want to check out some of there other.. "features" such as losing ENTIRE guild bank contents. some guilds going all the way back to the beginning... lost.. everything. some got stuff back.. some didnt. yeah... great game. great company. their releases are usually bug ridden messes, back when I still played you didnt plan on playing the first week of a release, simply because it was usually unplayable. I wouldnt say that its better over there by any stretch of the imagination.

Cool cherry picks that have nothing to do with actual game mechanics, its almost like bugs dont happen in other games and afaik the guild wipe was a result of backend updates.

Or are we going to forget FFXIV bugs like RMT stealing ur gil by forcing u to buy their items off of the MB if u were standing too close?
Leve abuse and bugs?
ID item swapping?
All the out of bound glitches? U could literally see Alexander before he spawns into the map.
Dungeon progression items falling through the floors?
Bosses having their phases bugged forever, i.e Twintania?
When fishing would crash the whole game servers?
When glam dressers would crash whole game servers?

Yeah buddy FFXIV is a completely bug free game and never has had any issues ever.

[Teno]

It'll probably be really basic, and WoW players have such low expectations at this point they'll love it.



Quite the opposite I'm sure. Microsoft is a corporation and seems to have been tightening the purse strings.

Quite the opposite to your opposite I'm sure. They're a corporation but still doing better than what was before, with better direction even if more in tune with bs trends and the like.

[AnimaAnimus]

This is just another boon for WoW, which has so much going for it right now, esp when you compare it to FFXIV. As a FFXIV vet who recently decided to finally give WoW a shot due to over a full year now and mediocre FFXIV "content" and "design", it is by far currently the better of the 2 in so many ways, from battle content, class design, higher cutscenes quality, events to even general gameplay. Even the general playerbase, from my experience, has become much more friendly and inviting than here in XIV. The lack of housing was one of the few things I thought XIV had over WoW, but I guess that problem is going to be solved. And if they make it well designed with more freedom in building and instanced it's going to have that over XIV as well.

[KitaiAryik]

Wait... WoW is doing housing??

from what was shown at the 30th anniversary over the past think day or 2, it has been teased that they are finally pulling the trigger on housing for their next expansion Midnight. probably won't get further details til summer to fall of 2025. we'll see how they pull this off and see if it will be a hot buggy mess or will run smooth given their track record. putting my bets on being miles ahead of 14's housing with all things considered. looking forward to seeing how this all turns out when we get more info on it next year i hope

[TomsYoungerBro]

I mean its literally the truth.
This game is built on a engine that has so many limitations and changing that is basically remaking the game.

And yet they made Island Sanctuary...

[Kes13a]

Cool cherry picks that have nothing to do with actual game mechanics, its almost like bugs dont happen in other games and afaik the guild wipe was a result of backend updates.

Or are we going to forget FFXIV bugs like RMT stealing ur gil by forcing u to buy their items off of the MB if u were standing too close?
Leve abuse and bugs?
ID item swapping?
All the out of bound glitches? U could literally see Alexander before he spawns into the map.
Dungeon progression items falling through the floors?
Bosses having their phases bugged forever, i.e Twintania?
When fishing would crash the whole game servers?
When glam dressers would crash whole game servers?

Yeah buddy FFXIV is a completely bug free game and never has had any issues ever.

pretty sure I never said that FFXIV is bug free nor would Ii ever say it was bug free lol. feel free to show me where I did. all I did was question your questionable call that WoW does "pretty much everything better".

as for 'cherry picking' it was a fairly major RECENT issue. the grass isnt greener there, its just a different yard.