Dragoon 7.1 Changes Feedback

[luluna09]

I was initially very excited reading through DRG's job changes for patch 7.1, seeing the potency buffs as well as Piercing Talon finally receiving some much-needed love.

But then I saw it. Nastrond charges were reduced from 3 to 1.
Just, why?

Dragoon has been my main since I started playing the game in Stormblood. I could go on about how the job's busy nature and double weaving is one of its appeals, but the bottom line is this: Nastrond is a fun and satisfying button to press.
Taking that away is like being forced to play the job as if it's still level 60. Life of the Dragon is going to feel too empty without having those two oGCD to spend near the end of the buff duration.

If the aim of this change was to reduce the amount of buttons to press, I ask that you direct your attention to Life Surge instead. If it were to be removed and make Heavens' Thrust and/or Drakesbane a guaranteed crit like SAM's Midare Setsugekka, DRG mains everywhere would rejoice.

Watering down such a core ability to the job is frankly a very disappointing thing to see. And while it won't ruin my enjoyment of the job (I don't think anything can), it'll definitely put a damper on my enjoyment of all the new high-end raids that are releasing this patch.

Please, just keep 3 charges on Nastrond!

[Joltik]

+1

Exactly this

[mitsukiki502]

So true--
the fun on drg comes from the extremely burst like burst(?) so it feels kinda like :<

Gimme more buttons to clickkkkk

[EponaTBHSMH]

This smells like groundwork for 8.0 DRG, if they are planning to give the job 2-3 new oGCDs in the next expac then its possible that 3 Nastronds along with all the oGCDs might be a lot especially if some of the new ones are tied with LOTD

[Saraide]

This smells like groundwork for 8.0 DRG, if they are planning to give the job 2-3 new oGCDs in the next expac then its possible that 3 Nastronds along with all the oGCDs might be a lot especially if some of the new ones are tied with LOTD

I feel like we've heard the "groundwork" excuse for years now. Even if that was the goal with the current dragoon changes, why is it nastrond that goes. Why not life surge.

[EponaTBHSMH]

I feel like we've heard the "groundwork" excuse for years now. Even if that was the goal with the current dragoon changes, why is it nastrond that goes. Why not life surge.

Life Surge is prolly next in line, I don't doubt that they're gonna make Heavenly Thrust just auto crit at some point. One thing is sure though, they've always been worried about bloat for the past 2 or 3 expansions, so they will always trim stuff, they prolly have a hard cap on how many oGCDs DRG should have

BUT I do believe 7.1 is way too early for this and they should let people enjoy the class during the expansion and leave this kind of stuff for like 7.4

[DelSolstice]

Killing the Nastrond stack isn't even removing any oGCDs though, you're just getting one instead of three. My Nastrond phase feels decidedly worse as a result. It does suck when it falls off, but they could have easily just let the window be a bit longer, or maybe removed one Nastrond at the absolute most. This design choice does nothing to help with bloat, it's just hateful towards Dragoons.

[Schan]

Killing the Nastrond stack isn't even removing any oGCDs though, you're just getting one instead of three.

I believe their intention was to reduce the amount of oGCD presses because they have received feedback that it feels overwhelming so they have steered the dragoon design to address that.

I think they fail to realize that most DPS feels overwhelming when you are not used to their kits. They just have to acknowledge that when you jump into a DPS after not playing it for a while things are going to suck for a bit until you get used to it and that's okay.

[CidHeiral]

This smells like groundwork for 8.0 DRG, if they are planning to give the job 2-3 new oGCDs in the next expac then its possible that 3 Nastronds along with all the oGCDs might be a lot especially if some of the new ones are tied with LOTD

People said the same thing about the Summoner rework and not only did it get nothing new of substance in Dawntrail but 7.1 removes one of the only parts of it that took any thought. When it comes to job design dumbing things down is a one way street for SE.

[mallleable]

Reducing the number of Nastronds just seem like such bad taste. Like if they want to declutter DRG's burst, remove Life Surge or something.