Thread: 7.1 and Bards got nothing...

I agree that a lot of jobs feel very stale and watered down. That said, we're in discussion about BRD and this post is mainly about BRD. As far as what it "needs" that is incredibly subjective and using its performance isn't a bad metric at this point especially when other jobs, as you stated, healers and others really need help from raid performance alone. FFXIV is at an inflection point. Their job design needs a massive overhaul and whether that includes reconfiguring their 2-minute buff meta, who knows, but if they don't figure something out soon, they will see lower and lower numbers of players willing to commit to this game. DT is already seeing some backlash. Can they survive if every aspect of their game is going down in quality? Who knows. Maybe they prove me wrong.

Can we please make Caustic Bite the only DOT skill and make it shorter -- like 30 seconds, and rework Stormbite. I would like it if Stormbite worked like how Harmonic Arrow works in PVP except with out the potency reduction on each accumulated charge. Like make it 150 potency, 15 second cool down, and 3 or 4 charges, and upon execution consumes all charges adding a strike for each charge consumed. Burst Shot reduces the recast time of Stormbite by 5 seconds, and Barrage resets all charges.

Why not just make Harmonic work similarly to pvp instead of removing a dot?

Being extremely pedantic but why are we referring to Resonant Arrow as Harmonic Arrow? lol

I think reducing the DoTs to one would just cause (an) additional problem too, since it’d mean Iron Jaws becomes functionally redundant.

Maybe they could think about restoring DoT interactions with the kit and give them a chance to affect Resonant Arrow. Like idk maybe a % chance to proc it on critical DoT ticks and give it charges.

Or maybe they could make it so Resonant Arrow can only gain charges during Army’s Paeon and the cool-down is lowered by Burst/Refulgent? So I guess a similar dynamic to how it is in PvP, but also restricted to that one song window so people can’t complain that it’s taking over the whole job lol. They could even give Burst Shot a walking cast to work around during Paeon. Not like we have anything else going on during it lol

Oh. Well you just made me notice that they actually use a different name for the same skill in pvp... No wonder people glanced at me funny.

Yeah all the ideas I threw earlier were essentially inspired by pvp.

Originally Posted by Valence

Oh. Well you just made me notice that they actually use a different name for the same skill in pvp... No wonder people glanced at me funny.

Yeah all the ideas I threw earlier were essentially inspired by pvp.

Yeah, it’s weird that they have two different names for the same skill lol. I can’t even think of any other abilities in PvP that are the same (same skill with a different name). I guess it’s maybe because they have to develop/create the abilities for PvP separately to the PvE, though that still doesn’t explain the name change. Maybe they were just like ‘actually, this sounds better’ lol

And yeah, the ‘PvP style bard’ does seem to be pretty popular if my anecdotal observations of Frontlines are any indication lol. So I could see them having aspects of the gameplay put into a song like Army’s Paeon, or maybe an entirely new one? Having it affect one song window rather than having those mechanics running full time would let them carry over some parts of the PvP gameplay without having to ‘homogenise’ it too much with the standard ‘PvE’ gameplay. If that makes sense lol.

Originally Posted by Valence

Why not just make Harmonic work similarly to pvp instead of removing a dot?

Do you want to apply a damage over time effect on an enemy?

YES NO