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    Brigog Kaspen
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    7.1 and Bards got nothing...

    Header says it all. TONS of people have posted about this yet not one change...
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Not even quality of life changes that will actually make it easier to play that have been asked for by qualified BRD players. Nothing.
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    A second charge of Empyreal Arrow would be nice.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Trying not to despair too much , but also realizing BRD only received potency buffs twice in the entirety of Endwalker's patch cycle. Dawntrail might be another painful expansion for BRD players.

    Hearing reports that tanks can actually out damage BRD even when the BRD player is bis, and doing their rotation correctly.
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    Last edited by mallleable; 11-23-2024 at 06:18 AM.

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    Paladin Lv 90
    You're surprised that the strongest phys range by a large margin didn't receive changes? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Trying not to despair too much , but also realizing BRD only received potency buffs twice in the entirety of Endwalker's patch cycle. Dawntrail might be another painful expansion for BRD players.

    Hearing reports that tanks can actually out damage BRD even when the BRD player is bis, and doing their rotation correctly.
    At least it's doing surprisingly okay in the damage department compared to its 2 brethren.
    But rotational issues continue to be ignored, much like the whole role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    At least it's doing surprisingly okay in the damage department compared to its 2 brethren.
    But rotational issues continue to be ignored, much like the whole role.
    You must be doing something wrong on the others cause bard is far below the others. MCH can pull pretty good numbers, bards are FAR behind.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigog View Post
    You must be doing something wrong on the others cause bard is far below the others. MCH can pull pretty good numbers, bards are FAR behind.
    I think it’s you who are doing something wrong with BRD

    BRD is and continues to be the strongest physical ranged (if just has a larger IQR since it’s harder to play) at its top end it’s pulling melee numbers
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I think it’s you who are doing something wrong with BRD

    BRD is and continues to be the strongest physical ranged (if just has a larger IQR since it’s harder to play) at its top end it’s pulling melee numbers
    aDPS, and nDPS tell a different story. It means that the potency on BRD's direct damage actions is low, like really low. And these damage problems are related to BRD's rotational, and stress issues because it means that the raid buffs are too important, and the damage actions aren't important enough. If anything bad happens to its songs from either user error or just getting KO'd in a fight or other things that aren't in the BRD player's control, the job evaporates. Like I get that BRD is supposed to be k'know a bard, but it has structural problems that need to be fixed, and unironically fixing its personal damage is a solution.
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    Last edited by mallleable; 11-27-2024 at 01:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    aDPS, and nDPS tell a different story. It means that the potency on BRD's direct damage actions is low, like really low. And these damage problems are related to BRD's rotational, and stress issues because it means that the raid buffs are too important, and the damage actions aren't important enough. If anything bad happens to its songs from either user error or just getting KO'd in a fight or other things that aren't in the BRD player's control, the job evaporates. Like I get that BRD is supposed to be k'know a bard, but it has structural problems that need to be fixed, and unironically fixing its personal damage is a solution.
    I mean what’s the problem of having a job that focuses extremely strongly on rDPS, BRD in 11 doesn’t even do damage in a functional way

    If anything I’d prefer they nerf its pDPS even more and make its buffs even bigger
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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