Koana will save the hhetso

[Valence]

One of the cringest moments of the whole msq so far. We've gone full shounen now, and not the good kind either.

[Duskleaf]

I can't shake the feeling this scene was originally planned for Wuk. But who's to say.

[CNitsah]

I can't shake the feeling this scene was originally planned for Wuk. But who's to say.

I had the same feeling. There was 2 points in the msq where I felt they brought change because of the feedback. This one and the "go alone to the outskirts", which I feel was supposed to be a "go with Wuk Lamat".

But this is a good example that the problem never has been Wuk Lamat, but the writing. If apply that writing to another character, it will be as bad. Once again, I fear that SE didn't get the right things from the complaints (but to be fair, the feedback from players focusing mostly on Wuk Lamat didn't help). I hope this is due to 7.1 being already too far in the production pipeline to massively change it, and not the answer to the feedback.

[glassflower]

Wow! Thank you for pointing this out, I didn't even draw a link between Koana not being able to save his father and feeling eternally guilty for it and paying it forward to save this animal he'd only just bonded with. I think he doubly earned his moment and we'll see him push forth in protecting whatever he's able to, now.

[Yoshihara]

Wow! Thank you for pointing this out, I didn't even draw a link between Koana not being able to save his father and feeling eternally guilty for it and paying it forward to save this animal he'd only just bonded with. I think he doubly earned his moment and we'll see him push forth in protecting whatever he's able to, now.

Ah yes, let's put someone with that mindset into a position of power to rule over two continents that comprise of around 1/3rd of the world's landmass.

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

#NotMyDawnservant

[glassflower]

Ah yes, let's put someone with that mindset into a position of power to rule over two continents that comprise of around 1/3rd of the world's landmass.

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

#NotMyDawnservant

If you're expecting some sort of super interesting geopolitical intrigue out of Final Fantasy, that was your first mistake. I know that you know that consistently things have been tied up in a neat bow throughout the game. Why would they change that now?

And once again, you're just being obtuse. This post was not about whether or not he should be in the position of power, but about this supposed 'nonsense' of this particular story beat. When your logic is shown to be flawed, you go on to change your argument and say 'well it doesn't make sense that he's in a position of power!'. It also doesn't make sense that a literal dragon rules a country, either.

[Hallarem]

Were in absolute brainrot Shonen level of writing now people. I switched to JP and what Koana yells Ive heard from every anime protag ever in shonen animes that have surface level writing. Word for word.

[chizLemons]

Your beloved father is about to get murdered by a madman who has clearly cheated the rules of dueling

If not for the thiccest coat of plot armor that only gave him cracked glasses, we would've had the singular Dawnservant once again. He may be smart and a machnist, but getting hit by such creature at such speed should incapacitate a person real good, if not killing them outright.

Is he, though? Is anyone in Dawntrail?
I dare anyone to point out one moment where we actually SEE him being smart. Not solving things off-screen and hearing about it later, not suddenly turning up with a solution to a problem from somewhere, not characters saying "Koana is smart". Actually doing or saying something that shows us he is smart.

Or better yet, try to do the same with any supposedly smart character in Dawntrail.

[glassflower]

Is he, though? Is anyone in Dawntrail?
I dare anyone to point out one moment where we actually SEE him being smart. Not solving things off-screen and hearing about it later, not suddenly turning up with a solution to a problem from somewhere, not characters saying "Koana is smart". Actually doing or saying something that shows us he is smart.

Or better yet, try to do the same with any supposedly smart character in Dawntrail.

For 'anyone', I'll raise you Erenville. His emotional intelligence toward animals as well as knowing their habits and patterns is undeniably a mark of his intelligence that we see repeatedly throughout 7.0 and the patch. As for Koana, I can agree that we don't see his moments on screen, though I'd venture he's pretty intelligent just by, I dunno, the whole fact we're meant to give suspension of disbelief to the fact that he's able to use the abilities we see in the instance.

[Yoshihara]

If you're expecting some sort of super interesting geopolitical intrigue out of Final Fantasy

Yes I do expect it. Stop being content with consuming sewage.

I know that you know that consistently things have been tied up in a neat bow throughout the game. Why would they change that now?

The flaws of Endwalker resolving everything without leaving room for further development is irrelevant to this case, at least in Endwalker's case it resolved them, and in a way that left enough people content.

And once again, you're just being obtuse. This post was not about whether or not he should be in the position of power, but about this supposed 'nonsense' of this particular story beat. When your logic is shown to be flawed, you go on to change your argument and say 'well it doesn't make sense that he's in a position of power!'. It also doesn't make sense that a literal dragon rules a country, either.

No, you're the one being incredibly obtuse and disingenuous in this case, to the point of trying to conflate the events of Endwalker and previous expansions, where it made sense for Vrtra's trials and tribulations that mirrored Heavensward, OVER the fact his size, species and demeanour was preventing him from being a public figurehead for his island nation fits the setting of FF14. In fact what you're doing is worse, you're trying to downplay and insult the integrity of acceptable writing, even if not stellar, to defend and or lower our standards to accept Dawntrail's writing.

What you stated is on the same level of saying "FF14's story has always been shit and will always be shit you're an idiot for ever thinking it was any good, Dawntrail's just more of the same!"
If you genuinely can't tell the difference, and not merely pretending then I'm not even sure why we're even having a conversation in the first place because I'd get more out of talking to Wuk Lamat.