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    Quote Originally Posted by glassflower View Post
    Wow! Thank you for pointing this out, I didn't even draw a link between Koana not being able to save his father and feeling eternally guilty for it and paying it forward to save this animal he'd only just bonded with. I think he doubly earned his moment and we'll see him push forth in protecting whatever he's able to, now.
    Ah yes, let's put someone with that mindset into a position of power to rule over two continents that comprise of around 1/3rd of the world's landmass.

    Nothing could possibly go wrong.

    #NotMyDawnservant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshihara View Post
    Ah yes, let's put someone with that mindset into a position of power to rule over two continents that comprise of around 1/3rd of the world's landmass.

    Nothing could possibly go wrong.

    #NotMyDawnservant

    If you're expecting some sort of super interesting geopolitical intrigue out of Final Fantasy, that was your first mistake. I know that you know that consistently things have been tied up in a neat bow throughout the game. Why would they change that now?

    And once again, you're just being obtuse. This post was not about whether or not he should be in the position of power, but about this supposed 'nonsense' of this particular story beat. When your logic is shown to be flawed, you go on to change your argument and say 'well it doesn't make sense that he's in a position of power!'. It also doesn't make sense that a literal dragon rules a country, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassflower View Post
    If you're expecting some sort of super interesting geopolitical intrigue out of Final Fantasy
    Yes I do expect it. Stop being content with consuming sewage.

    Quote Originally Posted by glassflower View Post
    I know that you know that consistently things have been tied up in a neat bow throughout the game. Why would they change that now?
    The flaws of Endwalker resolving everything without leaving room for further development is irrelevant to this case, at least in Endwalker's case it resolved them, and in a way that left enough people content.

    Quote Originally Posted by glassflower View Post
    And once again, you're just being obtuse. This post was not about whether or not he should be in the position of power, but about this supposed 'nonsense' of this particular story beat. When your logic is shown to be flawed, you go on to change your argument and say 'well it doesn't make sense that he's in a position of power!'. It also doesn't make sense that a literal dragon rules a country, either.
    No, you're the one being incredibly obtuse and disingenuous in this case, to the point of trying to conflate the events of Endwalker and previous expansions, where it made sense for Vrtra's trials and tribulations that mirrored Heavensward, OVER the fact his size, species and demeanour was preventing him from being a public figurehead for his island nation fits the setting of FF14. In fact what you're doing is worse, you're trying to downplay and insult the integrity of acceptable writing, even if not stellar, to defend and or lower our standards to accept Dawntrail's writing.

    What you stated is on the same level of saying "FF14's story has always been shit and will always be shit you're an idiot for ever thinking it was any good, Dawntrail's just more of the same!"
    If you genuinely can't tell the difference, and not merely pretending then I'm not even sure why we're even having a conversation in the first place because I'd get more out of talking to Wuk Lamat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshihara View Post
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    What's not sewage to you BTW? Please name some examples.
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    Were in absolute brainrot Shonen level of writing now people. I switched to JP and what Koana yells Ive heard from every anime protag ever in shonen animes that have surface level writing. Word for word.
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    I thought him bodyblocking for the buffalo and then whipping the sniper rifle out of nowhere was kinda narmy and fun, but the straightforwardness of the story up until that point sent mixed signals. Overall that moment alone wasn't bad. Main problem with the patch MSQ as a whole is that it is yet another 3 hours of visual novel with little to no tension up until the last 5 minutes with the imposter reveal and Wuk being cowed by the crowd into leaving rather than getting into an altercation in the middle of a foreign country.
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    The patch gave me more that I liked than disliked, I'll say. But having been able to read the writing on the wall that we were going to have koana interact with the hhestarro to resolve his childhood issues, it's wild that it was done and resolved in like. Two questlines. I think the biggest problem is still the dialogue. If Koana is struggling upright from having been injured and runs in front of a creature to save it, he doesn't need to Also shout "Even if it kills me, I will save the hhetso--" I'm watching him do it!
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    We're deep in the anime arc now, please look forward to more of it.
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