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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Honestly all of this is already borderline broken, but what truly baffles me is how the heck did they decide to give a RPR teleport to a ranged healer that doesn't even care about walls much. This skill isn't even there in pve. I get that sometimes pvp gets unique skills like that new PLD fancy shield smite, and its effect is cool and makes sense for that one, but retrogradation? What is even the justification behind this I don't even...

    And what I find really scary is that they're probably not going to remove it. They don't remove things they worked to add to the game. At best we'll get balance changes, but how do you even balance this?
    To me, this is the clearest sign the devs play-testing was inadequate or completely absent. You can view the AST teleport either as a win-more ability or something that keeps the job overpowered when played by low-skilled players. Either way, it shouldn't be there.
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    Is it only the teleport aspect or also the dash itself that makes AST so overpowered? If you were to remove the beacon and only keep the dash would that help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Is it only the teleport aspect or also the dash itself that makes AST so overpowered? If you were to remove the beacon and only keep the dash would that help?
    It'd naturally make them more vulnerable, sure. I think what's really puzzling is giving this ability to a ranged job, particularly one with such a large AoE.
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    It's hardly puzzling, considering that SCH gets expedient. However I would point out given the "walls" remark, that it's one thing to consider this in the context of CC, and another one to do so when potentially much larger group has an AST marked in FL.

    Which once more reinforces why , ideally - abilities could get adapted for each mode- even if potentially - the CD changed, only one mode kept the beacon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Are you OK? no job is "unstoppable". I mean, it isn't as though Red Mages don't have instant- cast CC or shields, or heals- o, wait- they do.
    Engaging with the active official forums population really is a headache, holy moly.

    It's a re-contextualized well-known meme from the video game "League of Legends" about the champion K'sante. It ain't that serious. The fact you are nit-picking a meme critique over an obviously overpowered job is quite funny, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaJae View Post
    Engaging with the active official forums population really is a headache, holy moly.

    It's a re-contextualized well-known meme from the video game "League of Legends" about the champion K'sante. It ain't that serious. The fact you are nit-picking a meme critique over an obviously overpowered job is quite funny, though.
    You know, I do agree, it can be a headache when you assume that everyone has either played a specific game, know a specific character, of is aware of a meme. So your "recontextualization" doesn't have the affect that you assume that it does.

    Oh, and by the way? It's a forum. it's not a question of being "serious" or "nit-picking", if you can't handle a respectful difference of opinions, why even be here - unless you just want an echo chamber, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    You know, I do agree, it can be a headache when you assume that everyone has either played a specific game, know a specific character, of is aware of a meme. So your "recontextualization" doesn't have the affect that you assume that it does.

    Oh, and by the way? It's a forum. it's not a question of being "serious" or "nit-picking", if you can't handle a respectful difference of opinions, why even be here - unless you just want an echo chamber, that is.
    You asked if I was OK which had nothing to do with my comment, and I doubt you care about my actual well-being. How respectful of you, indeed. But, you right, we must not sully the sanctity of this forum!

    I know it sucks being on the clown side of an argument, because at least 8 other people understood the meme and you didn't. I'd say it had a great effect. No need to be salty over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaJae View Post
    You asked if I was OK which had nothing to do with my comment, and I doubt you care about my actual well-being. How respectful of you, indeed. But, you right, we must not sully the sanctity of this forum!

    I know it sucks being on the clown side of an argument, because at least 8 other people understood the meme and you didn't. I'd say it had a great effect. No need to be salty over it.
    I realize you didn't understand the context of my comment, and you haven't understood that not everyone might understand yours. Calling yourself a clown is unduly harsh, however no need to sidetrack this discussion any further.
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    Pretty sizable nerfs to AST in the new patch notes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SacraAnima View Post
    Pretty sizable nerfs to AST in the new patch notes!
    Yeah that is... actually quite impressive. The 5s heavy on doublecast was really too much.

    Looks like a buff to SAM which it didn't need.

    Same for MCH. Maybe they were worried BRD would dominate phys ranged.

    Viper was toothless so those changes make sense.

    Pretty major nerf to RDM, which was pretty oppressive.

    Massive buff to Picto. Hmmm.
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