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    7.1 MSQ Is Actually Pretty Funny If You Think About It

    This post contains spoilers for 7.1 MSQ, so please click off if you haven't played it. Also excuse my writing since not that great with long posts

    I know there's a lot more nuance to the MSQ than what appears, but from the perspective of someone who doesn't really care about the MSQ at the moment it's just... hilarious. I may get some details wrong so forgive me, but anyways...

    You're telling me the kid that we promoted to an orphan invited us to the funeral of the lady that we killed? Are you serious? This is so inappropriate that it's kinda hilarious, even if we are on good terms with Gulool Ja and the funeral is to help the people of Alexandria cope with the concept of death, it's just... geez, what a start.

    From there we have the orphan kid ask us to help him learn more about his mother. Okay, fair enough. But then we have the echo flashback between Zoraal Ja and Teeshal Ja, and we learn that Gulool Ja's inception wasn't out of love or romance, but literally just a performance bonus because Zoraal Ja was just... okay with whatever and the lady decided she wanted him to put a baby in her.

    Hell, it's made even worse because her attraction to him was just her admiring him from afar, I don't think they really even talked. It's also made even worse by the fact that the lady thought that having him put a baby into her and then showing him the baby would somehow turn him into a responsible father when it just turned Zoraal Ja into a deadbeat who wanted nothing to do with his child.

    Like... people try to do a similar tactic in real life and it never works, so seeing it in FFXIV is just wild. We seriously just witnessed the inception of a deadbeat father as part of the FFXIV 7.1 MSQ. It's just so stupid yet so funny simultaneously

    And then there's the portion where we're trying to get the Rroneek off the train tracks.

    Personally, I thought the part where we did chores was fine, though I can't get over how Koana spent like... what, an hour following around a Rroneek, watching it eat and take dumps and suddenly he's gained a newfound respect for them and would literally die for a Rroneek he's never met, and even begins to treat them like people.

    It's such a wild 180, I know that he's trying to be respectful of cultures and understand other people's perspectives but it's a bit funny how overenthusiastic he is about the Rroneek after following one for a little while. Went from thinking positively about them to literally ride or die with the darn things.

    Also, the predator that I'll dub 'Crystal Deviljho' that conveniently appears also ends up being a convenient plot device for making a device to scare off the Rroneek, and also gives a different orphan (Koana) closure because one killed his parents and made him realize his parents didn't hate him after all. (I guess that makes 2 orphans we helped this patch)

    Though I don't think it was ever officially confirmed if the couple that fought off the Crystal Deviljho was his parents. Koana just kinda took the idea and ran with it, maybe his actual parents really did abandon him and the couple are completely unrelated parents.

    Also, Spleen randomly returning just feels like a reality TV show where they randomly bring back the fan favorite, complete with the memory altering. I also don't get why we don't just... kill her again? It's not like she can hop back over to other bodies, at the very least we can wait till she's alone and kill her dead instead of spending time investigating


    Anyways, for the people disappointed in the 7.1 MSQ, I hope this at least gave you a new perspective on the story. I won't say the writing is good, but it is funny, like a cheesy reality TV show. I know there's holes in my points but the writing is just so ridiculous I felt compelled to make a post
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    lady decided she wanted him to put a baby in her
    Yeah, with DT for sure FFXIV writing went pure trash tier anime
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    Half of it was stuff that should have been in the 7.0 MSQ, and the other half with galool and the ending should have taken up more of it

    Did Koana ever even mention he resented his parents before he outright said it while regretting he had done so? His arc with hating his parents until he finds thr truth about them is such a played out trope, you could see it coming a mile away

    Not gonna play Smile while they rebuild the train?

    I Feel like the WoL could have been absent from this whole story arc and nothing would change.

    With how powerful Wuk had gotten by the end of the 7.0 story, she should have no problem going to that facility or putting down that dinosaur thing. We are only there cause shes sandbagging HARD to keep us around
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    It was pathetic and I don't to play this crap anymore because of it. Body horror was the direction they wanted to go in? Did David Cronenberg get hired as a writer?
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    Lizard lady wanting a baby in her to the point of creating scientific monstrosities for a chance at a booty call isn't too far off course for FFXIV, especially when you consider Y'shtola's whole motivation for researching cross-shard travel is because she's thirsty for a Ronso guy in The First.
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    The only thing I will say is that that lady looked at Zoraal Ja with a degree of thirst that I have never seen anyone look at a lizard man with, and I am friends with several scalies and furries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The only thing I will say is that that lady looked at Zoraal Ja with a degree of thirst that I have never seen anyone look at a lizard man with, and I am friends with several scalies and furries.
    Bakool Jaja fans in shambles right now.
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    zarool ja being a deadbeat father was relatable lmfao. I couldn't take it seriously. i was half expecting jeremy kyle to walk out and ask why he failed the lie detector
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    Teeshal Ja: "Look at this baby."
    Zoraal Ja: "It looks kind of like me"
    Teeshal Ja: "He's our son."
    Zoraal Ja: "WHAT?! How did that happen?
    Teeshal Ja: "Did . . . did no one tell you how babies are made?"
    Zoraal Ja: "I can't be a father for some reason! AGH, I'm going insane or something. I'm going to go get some milk!"

    10/10 writing there. Really makes me glad that this guy was a serious villain at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337 View Post
    Did Koana ever even mention he resented his parents before he outright said it while regretting he had done so? His arc with hating his parents until he finds thr truth about them is such a played out trope, you could see it coming a mile away
    Been a bit since doing the MSQ, of course, but I seem to recall it was one of the places (that we get more with Koana than anyone) where they showed instead of telling us. I don't think he came out and said the words but his body language and the phrasing used in what he did say conveyed the feeling. For as little as we saw him in he MSQ, Koana has always felt like one of the better fleshed out characters. He had character growth and we saw that growth come into play here when we worked on a solution that wasn't just shoving tech at the problem but figuring out how tech could work hand in hand with tradition.
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