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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharia View Post
    Liked the ending but it were at best 5-10 minutes. The rst was indeed all over the place, ok the background story about the mother gave a nice touch if I cared more, but the part in the steps was a total waste of time.
    I have to disagree. I found the ending to be the worst part. I'm sick and tired of nobody staying dead, and always having some big bad. Been there, done that. Move on! Pulling a Palpatine is so cliche at this point, I mean they've had more resurrections than Jesus.

    The beginning was fine. I was a little disappointed, because this was a perfect opportunity to create some real conflict. The Alexandrians are struggling with mortality and loss and the death of their Queen, and they should be, rightfully, angry at us for what we did and for upending their entire society. But it's fine, the backstory for Gulool Ja was ok, not great, but it was fine, I guess, I didn't hate it.

    The second part is what I enjoyed the most, because this is what I wanted out of DT as a whole. Small, self contained and personal adventures in a new land, helping people along the way, fighting beasts, on my way to discovering the City of Gold. An Indiana Jones meets Kwai Chang Kane would be the best way of putting it. I don't care that the whole Koana moment was badly written, I'm fine with it, because I'd expect ranchers and herders to want to protect their flock from predators. That's a realistic situation.

    And then we get that completely awful ending, rewriting history again, yet another big bad, possibly world ending catastrophe. I'm so over it! I'm considering starting a pool, if the big bad turns out to be yet another Ascian.

    But... eh!... That's just my opinion. I got my hopes up for a moment and then went back to business as usual.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    How did this nerdy cat (I liked Koana until he became lamatied) outrun me AND Wuk Lamat to take the frontline.

    He really wanted to save the Hhesto...

    /s
    (11)

  3. #53
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Yeah, it was pretty bad. Dungeon was the most interesting part, but sadly couldn't lead to anything because it was going over "missing" stuff from 7.0. Using Carbuncle Savage with mud powers for the final boss. It's nice to have more punishing bosses in dungeons.

    After the dungeon, the fluff of going to the Miqotes that wanna insist on having a different racial name, and saving their buffalo all felt contrived and bullshitty(shit for flavoring food, really?). Especially the whistle. It will mimic the predator's roar which will guarantee they get away from the tracks! But like wouldn't it disturb all the other wildlife too, and also cause them to roam on their paths in the wrong way? Nah, don't worry about it. It's time for magical thinking, Sharlayan style.

    Also thought there was an obvious conflict in how Alexandria was presented with death. They got fused with the Yyasulani population, which consists of a lot of long lived Viera. That population explicitly has people in it who remember what it's like when someone dies and isn't sent to, "The Cloud." They even got sidequests about that one dude who wants to maintain the cemetery. They got sidequests of that one dude who wants to remember his friend etc.

    I could see some Alexandrians being upset about having to remember the departed, but the way they had a breakdown about having to remember that Sphene was dead and be like little whiny kids about it... Just really rang hollow to me. And the cliffhanger for Sphene 2 is weak and disinteresting. Cause there's only so many ways it can go. Either she's another Sphene simulacra spit out by an emergency backup system, an Ascian, or some twat with electrope making a power grab. Only the Ascian possibility is remotely interesting, and only because of storylines laid down prior to Dawntrail.

    All in all, Gulool Ja got the best writing this patch with regards to the MSQ. Wookiee Lamar is still Wookieeing, nothing unexpected there. Emotional angry yelling about Sphene 2, when she knew Sphene 1 for all of an afternoon.

    Dawntrail continues to be Yawnfail. At least the alliance raid was good. A shame that good feeling won't last/save the game for the lull between now and next big patch.

    On a sidenote: Saw a lot of people say the voiceover and certain CSes from 7.0 got re-recorded, and there was a big positive spin on Wuk Lamat's voiceover when she interrupts the Sphene fight to put the spotlight back on herself... I watched someone's clipping of it, and... It wasn't noticeably better to me at all, and didn't change the fact that the interruption/break in was shitty.

    Whatever they're smoking on the dev team, it must be really good stuff. There's no way they're drafting this story and its direction sober.
    (24)

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  4. #54
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    Akamadoshi's Avatar
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    Evander Achilles
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    Hello, sorry for my comment as it may contradict many others.
    I've actually really enjoyed 7.1 ....

    7.1, I finally understood what is going on better (Yes, even the normal raid unlock story I could not at all follow. It was confusing) but now, I have gained more understanding what the device do and story plot.

    When I decided to do MSQ today 3 weeks since release (and I truly dreaded it) .... I was surprised how well I took the MSQ. I heard speculations "Sphene will return" so I was not surprised. When I heard this way before 7.1, I wanted to feel annoyed when accepting the MSQ but somehow... I was happy by the plot twist. I was worried that from now on we get "determined storyline every patch with a satisfying end", that we have a cliffhanger relieved me of the feeling that thia a sequal, not an episode. (I hope it makes sense)

    I loved Koana's story!!! The way the 'errand quests' were made was very easy for me to understand the culture, and suddenly, I feel very affectionate to Rronneek - and love them now that I know how important they are! I couldn't help but get excited and enjoy the whole story. I am saddened many did not enjoy it, but I also understand if I did not sleep properly or did it on a bad day, I would feel annoyed.

    That is why I waited 3 weeks to feel good, and ready to do it after dreading for so long. I missed the feeling of the MSQ excitement. I had none at all. I am story-enjoyer, but this time, MSQ felt like a chore... so it was to my surprise I was quickly drawn to it after Sphene was announced officially dead! (I am not a fan of Sphene) ... the excitement returned finally now and enjoy it a lot. Guroja story was incredibly sad. It made my heart move. I was at first annoyed "How could a child carry the responsibility!?" But in the end I understand, he is growing up fast! Also, I was happy seeing Zoraaja again, he was my favourite in 7.0, so I was very sad he was gone. Of course, now Sphene is not only back, there is 2 of them. I just hope we can quickly get rid of her and meet the real villain! I hope my comment does not anger people too much, I only wished to also share my feelings on the MSQ, and I have enjoyed it a lot. Especially the battle with our friends on the field.

    Wuk Lamat was very quiet. I enjoyed her. She spoke when it was her turn, she only interrupted because it is her personality at the end, but she managed to calm down. I appreciated her a lot in the story, she felt like a proper member of the group, rather than a main character syndrome guy! I also did not feel like a "side character", I felt I was doing a patch story as it is. Nothing impactful but fruitful and it was done at a good pace.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post

    The second part is what I enjoyed the most, because this is what I wanted out of DT as a whole. Small, self contained and personal adventures in a new land, helping people along the way, fighting beasts, on my way to discovering the City of Gold. An Indiana Jones meets Kwai Chang Kane would be the best way of putting it. I don't care that the whole Koana moment was badly written, I'm fine with it, because I'd expect ranchers and herders to want to protect their flock from predators. That's a realistic situation.

    When i stop to think about it..Rak'tika Greatwood had more 'Indiana Jones' moments then the whole DT.
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    hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

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    I guess I'll share here.

    I skipped every cutscene. Reading people's thoughts here I know I didn't miss anything.

    Are you kidding me? After how bad 7.0 kicked things off? I'm not watching anything until 7.4 at the very least.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    Infantile.





    That was the word I was missing to describe 7.0. It finally came to me after I played 7.1...
    Unfortunately, you're going to see this more and more in writing for games, movies and tv shows. The writers who are taking over now, lack the world experience and maturity to write anything higher than infantile.
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  8. #58
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    7.1 The story was just all over the place and felt like filler after filler. Pushing things that should have been in the MSQ to a "resident evil" style looking dungeon then back to more filler. Then the "cliffhanger ending" that had me face-palming so hard, can we stop bringing back villains? I mean if you can even call her a good villain at this point. I'd rather Zenos came back than this, it made the whole ending of the horrid 7.0 MSQ mostly pointless in my point of view.

    It's rather clear the writing has gotten more immature since Shadowbringers/Endwalker if it's a new writer I would suggest you bring back the writing team of old as clearly this new one is not working out.
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  9. #59
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    Reading these comments made me glad that I skipped the cutscenes for 7.1.
    I paid full attention for 7.0 and felt like I was punished for it. They repeated themselves so often; it felt like not even the writers believed that anyone would actually be paying attention. And the payoff was nonexistent. I felt nothing through 95% of the 7.0 MSQ. When Wuk said "I think I know you, all of you," I burst out laughing because Sphene had been on screen for like, an hour. I gave 7.1 a chance to do something, but once we hit the funeral part I just started skipping because it felt like the writers were trying to pat themselves on the back for a character they didn't even write very well. You can't force me to feel sad for the death of a character you barely characterized.

    With the story out the window, I'm left wondering why I stay subbed. The only thing that pushes me to try harder content are the weapon/armor glams, and I haven't liked any of them this time around. Valigarmanda stuff looked stylish, but it just didn't fit anything I wear so I never felt compelled to go and run it. Lizardman EX didn't drop weapons so I didn't care about his fight either. The sphene weapons look terrible, I'm sorry. Everyone I know who got one glammed over it asap though, so I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way. They look appropriate for the boss, but totally divorced from any other glam set that exists in the game that I'd ever wear. And the armor from the Chaotic raid looks like some gaudy cash shop outfit from a f2p Korean MMO. In a way, it's a relief. Like, thank god, I won't feel compelled to "prog" a scripted fight with in/out/stack/spread/lightparty/meteor mechanics, and I won't feel pissed when the loot never drops and I have to do it again, and I won't have to deal with PF greeding and keeping us stuck on some mario party mechanic that an 8 year old could do. But it also sucks because the difficult content is clearly where a lot of the developers' love goes. If you're not interested in it, then you're missing a large chunk of the game. Even if you just do the EX content once, just to see it, what else is there? The new hairstyles have all been ass. The glams have been so hit or miss. The dungeons are kind of a one-and-done affair. Anyone who wants to cosplay a mall teenybopper or an android is eating good this patch, I guess, but that's about it. So much of the chilled out "not-raiding" stuff is backloaded to later patches, and the time between patches is 4 months at best; it's insane because guaranteeing a lackluster .1 patch loses them huge chunks of players every time but they refuse to change the formula. Housing, relic, foray, variants, deep dungeon, all pushed up to some unknown future patch date. But savage? Oh boy, get that out asap. Ultimates that only like 5% of the population even cares about? Get that out in 7.1 lmao. Actual replayable stuff that most people will sink their teeth into and keep busy with for weeks/months? Ah, let it wait until mid to late 2025. Dumb as hell. I genuinely don't know why I'm still subbed. I don't even like my house anymore. Been thinking about redecorating but eh, maybe not. Maybe this is it. idk.

    I will say, at least the alliance raid didn't disappoint. But that's one enjoyable thing, and it's not like I'm gonna run it 300 times or something. It is difficult to justify the subscription as someone who isn't interested in "progging in a square arena."
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 11-25-2024 at 08:54 PM.
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  10. #60
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    the only good part of the patch is the alliance raid story so fair and the new dungeon because I feel they used something with so many potential yet wasted
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