Thread: So that 7.1 msq...

I don't know what needs to happen to the writing, if they have a formula in place I don't think new writers will help. if they chose a line of "Make it really happy and anime" I don't know how they are gonna make this interesting anymore. Unless a new writer fights to put in some NUANCE into the writing at the threat of his/her job and having Yoshi-P or Ishikawa yell at them.

- Garlemald destroyed offscreen, MISTAKE. We could've gotten a full expansion dealing with a civil war and change in Garlemald, seen the royal family, given Zenos an actual proper storyarc that wasn't some shonen anime villain wank off of "Oh look, cool guy with sword is edgy and like a mad dog." He could've robbed his father of power and we could've had a hand in a rebellion in Garlemald and seen reform, and having them withdraw the empire from their conquered lands. There was so much to that.

- Even after that, we could've explored how BOZJA, how DALMASCA, How LANDIS, NAGXIA and other regions dealt with the power vacuum of Garlemald going away. DAlmasca already had tensions between civilians and the royal family even before the Empire came in. Bozja has several resistance factions that want a say in how the nation is rebuilt, not to mention every other tiny region in ILSABARD WHICH IS STILL COVERED IN A FOG IN THE MAP, while we gallivant to the edge of the universe!

- Long gone are the moments where we argued with Varis about ruling, and how he points out the hypocricy of the city states of Eorzea on how they treat the beast tribes for example. Long gone are the plots of walking a tight rope in political scheming like it was done in Ul'dah. Any sort of nuance that we had in Ishgard. Any nuance of how crappy the Far East is as an estalishment (Yotsuyu) and could brew tragedies.

In summary: Going to the end of the universe was a mistake, it was like WoW going to the afterlife, did I mention SHARLAYAN has a listening post IN THE AFTERLIFE? (ugh..). If only they could be arsed to write more nuanced storytelling that isn't an instant solution. Have world conflicts, have political conflicts that are ONGOING. Have new wars, in new regions. The WoL might be powerful, but the WoL isn't unbeatable.

Go back to the basics, have people have conflicts and arguments, including the scions. Respect your own worldbuilding from before. Every region has it's own problems and power struggles. Tural is a lost cause I think, writing-wise in terms of the MSQ.

It's more important that they are consistent with the tone of their story, Tural is way too much of an utopia that it borders on unbelievable within the world its supposedly in and it has this weird feeling of being a cultural displaycase instead of being actual living breathing cultures. (Funnily enough AGAIN the sidequests shine with their writing on this compared to the MSQ, I highly recommend the rolequests for example.)

Originally Posted by Hallarem

I don't know what needs to happen to the writing, if they have a formula in place I don't think new writers will help. if they chose a line of "Make it really happy and anime" I don't know how they are gonna make this interesting anymore. Unless a new writer fights to put in some NUANCE into the writing at the threat of his/her job and having Yoshi-P or Ishikawa yell at them.

- Even after that, we could've explored how BOZJA, how DALMASCA, How LANDIS, NAGXIA and other regions dealt with the power vacuum of Garlemald going away. DAlmasca already had tensions between civilians and the royal family even before the Empire came in. Bozja has several resistance factions that want a say in how the nation is rebuilt, not to mention every other tiny region in ILSABARD WHICH IS STILL COVERED IN A FOG IN THE MAP, while we gallivant to the edge of the universe!

correct me if i'm wrong, isn't illsabard map being covered in fog \ clouds because those areas are uncharted? probably due to the occupation of garlemald preventing modren scholars from traveling through the continent to chart it, still, it is weird that corvos is still not visible on the map even though it is the entery point to illsabard from thavanir

it is also known about illsabard having a harsh terrain and weather so that could be another reason