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    Final fantasy XIV Online: Dawntrail - Patch 7.1: Cossroads (To The Milk Store)
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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

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    I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what they were thinking when they gave us this story segment.

    I didn't skip it, but I was very close to throwing in the towel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    the only good part of the patch is the alliance raid story so fair and the new dungeon because I feel they used something with so many potential yet wasted
    As someone not familiar with FFXI's world, and so cannot really feel nostalgic and/or identify what is and isn't references and such, is the Raid story really that good or ..?

    Because from my PoV, it was essentially "Portal to another world opens randomly, villain that died off-screen is thus not dead and comes back with mysterious power (all while acting cartoonishly evil), go fight a bunch of bosses in random areas". I want to be wrong on this since I'm missing a lot of context, but yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisseyCrowe View Post
    As someone not familiar with FFXI's world, and so cannot really feel nostalgic and/or identify what is and isn't references and such, is the Raid story really that good or ..?

    Because from my PoV, it was essentially "Portal to another world opens randomly, villain that died off-screen is thus not dead and comes back with mysterious power (all while acting cartoonishly evil), go fight a bunch of bosses in random areas". I want to be wrong on this since I'm missing a lot of context, but yeah.
    Stupid lizard aside, it's a glorious nod to XI. The portal you take into the raid is via a voidwatch portal. The Walk if Echoes was mentioned by said boring lizard, which is neat how it ties Eorzea to Vana'diel.
    With WoE being integral to Voidwatch and Wings of the he Goddess, I wouldn't be surprised if Lady Lilith is the big bad at some point.
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    liked the 7.1 story. sure it isnt perfect but its not bad.

    i've been rather critical of the 7.0 story so maybe 7.1 is just better and not good, but yeah i liked it.

    i'm not a friend of the whole childking thing. a CHILD nobody knows and son of a murderous king? yeah no... and this isnt something they can just change in the patches... but this carried over from 7.0. everything around that was good.

    wuk said her stuff but she was far from taking over the whole patch.

    now the reaction of the people is too one sided.... like... nobody wants to remember their parents and carry that feeling over to this situation? nobody wants to keep rememberung the good times with sphene?

    the second thing i didnt really like is how koana met a rroneek and one quest later he is rdy to die for one (not even the same rroneek). aside from that... i really like to get more lore about the world especially when its about indigenous tribes.

    the ending... i dont really get the people who are blind blown. isnt it (at least apparently) just another zenos situation? she dies and then we have a fake one / copy / someone else who is pretending to be the real one.... and the real one who is somewhere else.

    dungeons in DT are all great over all. a challenge for the weaker players and not

    so all in all i rather liked this patch story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    Stupid lizard aside, it's a glorious nod to XI. The portal you take into the raid is via a voidwatch portal. The Walk if Echoes was mentioned by said boring lizard, which is neat how it ties Eorzea to Vana'diel.
    With WoE being integral to Voidwatch and Wings of the he Goddess, I wouldn't be surprised if Lady Lilith is the big bad at some point.
    Just like with previous raids, a person's enjoyment out of it's story will depend entirely on their familiarity with the original material. I never played FFXI so I have no understanding or attachment to it's world. The fights are okay, but I just kind of tuned out with the story.
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    I still haven't managed to force myself through 7.1.

    Got to the scene of Wuk trying to comfort a brain-dead child about coping with sphenes loss..........YOU LITERALLY KILLED HER, WHY DOES NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLOT?

    Part of the appeal to me has always been that they go into detail showing how the common folk in almost every culture in eorzea react to the events our protagonists cause and those repercussions. This is a key element of FFXIV's storytelling and to deny it seems disrespectful to writers and fans alike.

    So we still not acknowledging Wuk is an invading oppressor who has installed a child-puppet to rule? This isn't the reality of course but the idea that an entire culture and civilization just seem to accept this as totally fine breaks my suspension of disbelief (among many other parts of DT), why ever care about the story again when nothing matters? Anything can be explained away with magical sharlyan bullshit. Consequences do not exist. Characters are little mouth puppets that will act however the plot convenience demands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    Final fantasy XIV Online: Dawntrail - Patch 7.1: Cossroads (To The Milk Store)
    I called it Patch 7.1: Four Tacos and a Funeral.


    Quote Originally Posted by LisseyCrowe View Post
    As someone not familiar with FFXI's world, and so cannot really feel nostalgic and/or identify what is and isn't references and such, is the Raid story really that good or ..?
    I spent a lot of time with XI many years ago. To me, this raid was just nostalgia bait. I enjoyed the music, and high-rez Lower Jeuno is great. I had a chuckle over the shadow asking for a tele-taxi to Mea, but if you've never played XI that little bit of dialog means nothing, or is outright confusing. As for the story itself, I thought the villian reveal was stupid, his plan to take over the world is stupid, and using electrope as a narrative crutch to bring literally anything into existance is lazy. I kind of checked out after that. I think the next two raids are going to be more of the same. Overall, it just made me wish for an updated FFXI.


    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    Got to the scene of Wuk trying to comfort a brain-dead child about coping with sphenes loss..........YOU LITERALLY KILLED HER, WHY DOES NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLOT?
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    So we still not acknowledging Wuk is an invading oppressor who has installed a child-puppet to rule? This isn't the reality of course but the idea that an entire culture and civilization just seem to accept this as totally fine breaks my suspension of disbelief (among many other parts of DT), why ever care about the story again when nothing matters? Anything can be explained away with magical sharlyan bullshit. Consequences do not exist. Characters are little mouth puppets that will act however the plot convenience demands.
    Playing Devil's advocate here, like I said in my previous post, I don't think citizens of Alexandria know what happened in Living Memory. They know Sphene is "dead," but I don't think they would know the hows and the whys. I seem to remember something about the existence of the Meso Terminal being a secret, which raises further questions about what the people actually do know. Unfortunately, this is just one of many loose threads that aren't likely to be tied together; future narrative will just be forced into whatever shape the writers want.

    As to Gulooa Ja, remember that it was Everkeep's computer systems that elevated him, based solely on heredity. I find it strange that nobody shows him any deference and he still dresses like a peasant from the backwaters of Mamook, but whatever. Also, it was the Alexandrians who invaded, and we crashed a train into their fortress to access what should be disputed territory. We were invited into Everkeep as guests, and as far as I know Wuk has had zero influence in Alexandria (shutting down Living Memory notwithstanding, but that goes to my previous questions). That a foreign military is still operating with impunity on Turalian soil is an issue that will never be addressed. These questions of politics and diplomacy are too complex for this story.
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    Last edited by Kennar; 11-27-2024 at 11:33 PM.

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    7.1 MSQ was thrash

    Alliance Raid story is where my MSQ is right now as even though it was flawed it kept me engaged in its story and makes me questioned what will happen next.

    I nearly wished they turned them around as the alliance raid story could have easily worked as MSQ.
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  10. #70
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    Many Players found Heavensward's Story boring, but ultimately there were Scenes in the Story that touched many Players, tears were shed, Players mourned and they waited with anticipation for further parts of the Story.
    Stormblood, Shadowbringers and Endwalker also evoked emotions in many Players. Sadness, joy, pity or even anger.
    Dawntrail, on the other hand, evoked absolutely zero feelings in me other than anger about this rarely stupid Story. There was not a single moment that touched me.
    Dawntrail is a soulless collection of wasted, irrelevant, often repeated phrases. I miss the "In the meantime" cutscenes, the real villains and not the kindergarden bullies who solve all problems on their own in 20 minutes.
    I don't know what happened to the writing Team, but whoever wrote Dawntrail needs to be fired. There is no excuse for such bullshit, because SE made millions for it and there must be consequences.
    There hasn't even been an apology yet. SE should have realized by now what a lot of Players think of Dawntrail and ignorance of paying Players has already broken the neck of many a game.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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