Thread: So that 7.1 msq...

I liked it.

Originally Posted by Vintersol

I liked it.

I wish I was you. I truly do.

Originally Posted by Hallarem

I don't know what needs to happen to the writing, if they have a formula in place I don't think new writers will help. if they chose a line of "Make it really happy and anime" I don't know how they are gonna make this interesting anymore. Unless a new writer fights to put in some NUANCE into the writing at the threat of his/her job and having Yoshi-P or Ishikawa yell at them.

- Even after that, we could've explored how BOZJA, how DALMASCA, How LANDIS, NAGXIA and other regions dealt with the power vacuum of Garlemald going away. DAlmasca already had tensions between civilians and the royal family even before the Empire came in. Bozja has several resistance factions that want a say in how the nation is rebuilt, not to mention every other tiny region in ILSABARD WHICH IS STILL COVERED IN A FOG IN THE MAP, while we gallivant to the edge of the universe!

correct me if i'm wrong, isn't illsabard map being covered in fog \ clouds because those areas are uncharted? probably due to the occupation of garlemald preventing modren scholars from traveling through the continent to chart it, still, it is weird that corvos is still not visible on the map even though it is the entery point to illsabard from thavanir

it is also known about illsabard having a harsh terrain and weather so that could be another reason

Originally Posted by Hallarem

Now we have: Problem -> Solution within a cutscene -> play happy music and everyone smiles. This is childish and insulting, and I think it all stems from Endwalkers rushed state of storytelling, where they wanted to vomit everything out at us because they couldn't be arsed to write properly and just wanted to cram in as much as they could. So we get a speed version of Thavnair, a speed version of Garlemald, the plot-expositionville of SHarlayan that conveniently knows everything in the world, so we just have to go to them for a solution after one day of research. I hate Sharlayan because it's a convenient tool for the writers now to okay their way out of any problem solving writing, much like how KOANA uses Sharlayan in the New World. "Oh lemme just quickly invent a train whistle that transfers aetheric sounds that mimic a beast, but in an inoffensive way so the Rroneek don't get TOO SCARED in a day! Because Sharlayan powers!"

Can we complain then, about how this has been a thing ever since ever? Because no one used to complain about this when the Scions constantly pulled solutions out of nowhere because 'they are so smart'. A problem that really rose in question in Shadowbringers and got worse in Endwalker. If anything, the level of the story is almost the same, with just less appeal to the emotions to seem remarkable.

Originally Posted by Raraka

The worst part is knowing that they set up this weird cliffhanger and within the first 20 minutes of 7.2 they will completely expose who the baddie is and their motivation

What the actual [Thal's balls!] happened to the writing of this game...

I'll go one step further with this.
Either the last boss of the dungeon was Galool jas mom based on the echo we got (The head scientist is crossed off cause he was the 2nd boss) or his mom is the bad guy because she was the only new character introduced that we diddn't meet/saw the end of, only implied (The queens aide, sure. but he was seemingly effected by the neo regulators. That'd be a bit weird if he was the badguy.... unless he was faking)

Originally Posted by Cidel

Oh btw guys, Gulool's good with computers now so don't worry about it.

Shale got Gulool Ja Alexandrian edition Mavis Beacon lol

Originally Posted by Cidel

Hyperbole and sarcasm aside, that's basically the synopsis of the entire patch's MSQ. I don't know what's worse, getting flashbacks of things that literally just happened within the hour or every issue being so neatly resolved 20 minutes later through coincidence. Once in a while it's fine, but so many in the span of an hour? It all just comes off as lazy and uninspired, which I guess is becoming DT's actual main theme, next to "parents, 'mirite?"

But ok for real even though I enjoyed 7.1 more than 7.0 I 100% agree everything was way too perfectly tied up neatly with a perfect bow.

I can get over thinking some of these things could have been introduced in 7.0 then wrapped up in 7.1, which could have given us more time with the Alexandrian “how do we deal with grief” and Sphene 2: I didn’t die electric boogaloo stuff. But the perfectness of tying up plot threads and so quickly was just not great.

And you didn’t mention it but even Wuk Lamat finding us to start the MSQ was too quick and perfect too. She just happened to be walking around, conveniently stumbled in the restaurant at the perfect time to overhear the guy struggling with coming back to tullioyolal and having the perfect solution to his problem. And lucky her we are just one table away and she was just hoping she’d randomly find us during her random walk abouts.

And it just cascades from there, Koana’s 20 years of (misguided) resentment gone in an afternoon. Buffalo problem just needed one predator down and the grazing issue and the train issue also solved. Gulool Ja mystery mom and birth origins also solved shortly and he takes it perfectly well with no concerns or issues about this new information.

It was a "just okay" anime filler episode, but when I think back the prior X.1 patches like post-war Ala Mhigo and Doma, or the main plot of trying to get back home in time in 5.1, or even 6.1 with the setup for the selfcontained arc with you working for the dragon king to go to another world, this just pales in comparison.

Yepp. Crossroads feels incomplete because Mankrik's wife was not there.



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