So what exactly is there to Do this patch?

[Brightamethyst]

people don't wanna leave the game tbh. they like its core foundations, they just want the game to anti up more reasons for them to keep playing.

Exactly. The game's biggest problem right now is that there is very little incentive to log in and play every day. The vast majority of content is either one and done (most quests), a weekly thing that you can do in one day and be done for the week (raids, unreal, islands, etc), or so short and simple it barely even qualifies as an activity (tribal society dailies, custom deliveries, etc.)

Unless you're big into PvP, or going out of your way to chase some specific reward or achievement, what incentive does the average player -especially long time veterans who have done most of the one time things already- have to keep playing?

[Rehayem]

Sorry couldn't resist

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Honestly these "nothing to do in this new patch wtf" complaints are becoming hard to take seriously when they are always posted Day 1.

The main complaints are that they is nothing to grind when that is objectively not true. People conveniently ignore things and pretend like they don't count.

A new EX fight is very grindy and takes a lot of time to get all of the totems/the mount/the weapons you want. "That's sweaty content for raiders, I'm talking about midcore content". I've got news for you: EX fights ARE MIDCORE. Kinda wild that people who play this game to death and run out of content in one day also aren't at the skill level to beat these fights. They aren't that hard I promise. Most people still don't even have the EX 1 and 2 mounts yet

Alliance Raids and Allied Society are also time gated grinds. I know we've seen them before but it doesn't make this not true.

We also have new grindable rewards like the treasure map weapons.

I know people want new fresh grinds but we are getting that later in the expac with cosmic exploration and the new field zone. I don't wholly disagree with these sentiments but these posts come off as really whiny and bad faith

[sindriiisgaming]

Honestly these "nothing to do in this new patch wtf" complaints are becoming hard to take seriously when they are always posted Day 1.

The main complaints are that they is nothing to grind when that is objectively not true. People conveniently ignore things and pretend like they don't count.

A new EX fight is very grindy and takes a lot of time to get all of the totems/the mount/the weapons you want. "That's sweaty content for raiders, I'm talking about midcore content". I've got news for you: EX fights ARE MIDCORE. Kinda wild that people who play this game to death and run out of content in one day also aren't at the skill level to beat these fights. They aren't that hard I promise. Most people still don't even have the EX 1 and 2 mounts yet

Alliance Raids and Allied Society are also time gated grinds. I know we've seen them before but it doesn't make this not true.

We also have new grindable rewards like the treasure map weapons.

I know people want new fresh grinds but we are getting that later in the expac with cosmic exploration and the new field zone. I don't wholly disagree with these sentiments but these posts come off as really whiny and bad faith

grind out 50 totems for a mount i cant even buy for another year

I know people want new fresh grinds but we are getting that later in the expac with cosmic exploration and the new field zone

firstly you have no proof planetary explo will even have fresh grinds, secondly i think saying look i know u want this content but ur gona get it later ok, so please just keep subbing and come back later is kinda hilarious.
and before u said "then just leave and come back later" if everybody literally did that. se would loose millions in monthly revenue for what might be the next 12 months. somehow, i don't think that would be good business

[Supersnow845]

Honestly these "nothing to do in this new patch wtf" complaints are becoming hard to take seriously when they are always posted Day 1.

The main complaints are that they is nothing to grind when that is objectively not true. People conveniently ignore things and pretend like they don't count.

A new EX fight is very grindy and takes a lot of time to get all of the totems/the mount/the weapons you want. "That's sweaty content for raiders, I'm talking about midcore content". I've got news for you: EX fights ARE MIDCORE. Kinda wild that people who play this game to death and run out of content in one day also aren't at the skill level to beat these fights. They aren't that hard I promise. Most people still don't even have the EX 1 and 2 mounts yet

Alliance Raids and Allied Society are also time gated grinds. I know we've seen them before but it doesn't make this not true.

We also have new grindable rewards like the treasure map weapons.

I know people want new fresh grinds but we are getting that later in the expac with cosmic exploration and the new field zone. I don't wholly disagree with these sentiments but these posts come off as really whiny and bad faith

When you reduce what you just wrote to its composite parts you are basically arguing the EX alone is worth doing and not everyone wants to do the EX. Some people find it too hard, others (I fall into this category) see it as the worst halves of casual and savage, you have to deal with PF to do it but it’s easy enough you don’t feel accomplished like savage. EX is probably my least favourite content in the game

Allied society and AR being “time gated grinds” just means you do them once per week and adding a few extra rewards to a drop table that’s been able to be run since 7.0 is really doing some heavy lifting here

[Amh_Wilzuun]

grind out 50 totems for a mount i cant even buy for another year

Still a grind, and you can just farm the whistle if you don’t want to wait. I’m personally fine waiting to turn in the totems. You will have the EX 1 and 2 totems to turn in before them and getting all of the EX mounts is always a long con over the whole expansion

firstly you have no proof planetary explo will even have fresh grinds, secondly i think saying look i know u want this content but ur gona get it later ok, so please just keep subbing and come back later is kinda hilarious.
and before u said "then just leave and come back later" if everybody literally did that. se would loose millions in monthly revenue for what might be the next 12 months. somehow, i don't think that would be good business

I don’t need proof, it’s literally a new form of content. It would be crazy to think it won’t have some uniqueness to it even though I’m sure it will have similarities to firmament and IS

Also my argument is that regular content are still grinds and repeatable. The topic of the thread is that there’s “nothing to do this patch” (always posted .0001 seconds after it goes live, weird huh?), not that about formulaic content. That’s a whole different topic. For those who are fine with some of the usual content, the new AR and EX fight are well made. People expecting them to competely drop the content formula should probably just quit because that’s not happening. If the new content does well then we will get more of it. Just like Eureka leading to more field expeditions

[Gullis]

Alliance Raids and Allied Society are also time gated grinds. I know we've seen them before but it doesn't make this not true.

Problem here is that one is a 5 min daily activity, and the other is a one and done, then wait 1 week.

[Somnolence]

There is no fun daily content added this patch.

If you like me don't care about alliance rewards or new EX mount - there is no fun weekly content either, meaning these were one-and-done.

[ArchlordPie]

"there's no content"

"but what about the content"

"i don't like that content so there's no content"

^these forums in a nutshell.

On a more serious note, the game has plenty of one-time content and plenty of somewhat-repeatable content. You've just done it all already.

If that's not enough for you, go pick up Runescape, or Brighter Shores, or some other game that's designed for content locusts. You won't run out of content there for a while.

...or maybe you will as soon as you decide "grinds aren't content, so there's no content" and uninstall. Who knows. /eyeroll

[Hypnotic13371337]

Can we rephrase this to "This isnt enough content to warrant $60-75 worth of sub money" instead? Feel like that'll get the point across a lot better.

"Just don't sub then" Doesen't matter if I'M subbed, SE is assuming atleast one person is subbed, and this is what they are making to get that one persons $60-75 worth of sub

Sure there will be people saying "But stuff will come later" That stuff isnt out NOW, though, and this is how much each of us has paid for waiting for what is out NOW. The later content we get will be $0-15+ based on how long it'll take. if they wanted it to all happen at once, they would have done that.