So what exactly is there to Do this patch?

[glassflower]

or is it just back to clubbing and rp for me?

if you don't like doing those things either then simply unsub and do something else. in fact, i think that would be the best case scenario for people complaining about "lack of content"... use your money as your vote. if enough people do it, something will have to change... or it won't, and the game will die. it's really a simple situation.

[sindriiisgaming]

if you don't like doing those things either then simply unsub and do something else. in fact, i think that would be the best case scenario for people complaining about "lack of content"... use your money as your vote. if enough people do it, something will have to change... or it won't, and the game will die. it's really a simple situation.

people don't wanna leave the game tbh. they like its core foundations, they just want the game to anti up more reasons for them to keep playing. and thats the boat im in, I cant just unsub, i have a static im dragging through m4. I have work at clubs i do. I'M the owner of an FC. but i am sick of it being ALL there really is to do. ive already grinded out most achievos and completely burnt myself out

[Brightamethyst]

people don't wanna leave the game tbh. they like its core foundations, they just want the game to anti up more reasons for them to keep playing.

Exactly. The game's biggest problem right now is that there is very little incentive to log in and play every day. The vast majority of content is either one and done (most quests), a weekly thing that you can do in one day and be done for the week (raids, unreal, islands, etc), or so short and simple it barely even qualifies as an activity (tribal society dailies, custom deliveries, etc.)

Unless you're big into PvP, or going out of your way to chase some specific reward or achievement, what incentive does the average player -especially long time veterans who have done most of the one time things already- have to keep playing?

[BigCheez]

if you don't like doing those things either then simply unsub and do something else. in fact, i think that would be the best case scenario for people complaining about "lack of content"... use your money as your vote. if enough people do it, something will have to change... or it won't, and the game will die. it's really a simple situation.

"I want to play the game but there's nothing to do"

"Don't play the game"

Great solution. Definitely solves the problem.

[glassflower]

"I want to play the game but there's nothing to do"

"Don't play the game"

Great solution. Definitely solves the problem.

there's clearly something to do, they said it right there in their post. rp and clubbing. there you go. that's playing the game. if the content is boring to you, then don't do it? i really don't see the problem here.

[BigCheez]

there's clearly something to do, they said it right there in their post. rp and clubbing. there you go. that's playing the game. if the content is boring to you, then don't do it? i really don't see the problem here.

AFKing in someone's house while a DJ streams music on Twitch is not content. If you're willing to stretch the definition of content this far then they might as well just stop developing new expansions because the players should be content with just idling in Limsa, right?

How about you just let people vent about things that they're unhappy with instead of trying to run damage control for the devs?

[glassflower]

AFKing in someone's house while a DJ streams music on Twitch is not content. If you're willing to stretch the definition of content this far then they might as well just stop developing new expansions because the players should be content with just idling in Limsa, right?

How about you just let people vent about things that they're unhappy with instead of trying to run damage control for the devs?

i didn't say it was content. i said it was playing the game, which it is. venting that there is 'nothing to do' does less to fix your situation than voting with your sub and going to do something else that actually does spark joy.

[ovIm]

there's clearly something to do, they said it right there in their post. rp and clubbing. there you go. that's playing the game. if the content is boring to you, then don't do it? i really don't see the problem here.

People want to do battle content. We all spend 100 levels unlocking skills, buttons to push, and then when we arrive at the end, there is no reason to push those buttons outside of a couple of boss fights that you can clear reasonably quick. (Ultimate being the exception here)

Relegating the "what content to enjoy" question to user made activities is defending and excusing a developer unable (or unwilling) to push long lived content in an MMORPG out on an earlier date.

[glassflower]

Relegating the "what content to enjoy" question to user made activities is defending and excusing a developer unable (or unwilling) to push long lived content in an MMORPG out on an earlier date.

you're moving the goalposts. i simply said that if you don't enjoy the content (or playing the game) then you should use your money to tell the devs you're unhappy with it. should they do better? sure, i think everyone has been feeling that there's less to do right now. but remaining subbed to a game you dislike and spewing hot air about it on the forums hasn't done anything yet and probably won't. use your money, because that's what corporations care about.

[Eyrilona]

Well, if you're a Disciple of the Hand or Land, you now have a few months to get a whole new BiS together and grind the green and blue materia pentamelds, if you want to stand a chance of crafting the next tier of crafted in the week between they drop 7.2 and the next savage tier. That's no less a time sink than an old style relic weapon grind used to be -- maybe even more.