Sanction: Really any good?

[Viritess]

I still don't understand this, at all, personally. Sanction is just another form of Signet in FFXI, under certain conditions, with signet, gear could be much better and replace things much better. (To me, most of the sanction gear is on par with the good Nation gear anyway.)

You have a ranking system in this game, just like FFXI. Why not make Sanction last based on the rank of the person getting it, and through death? Reward people for actually being able to get/use the items in the first place. Granted, ranking up isn't all that hard, but I'm sure they're going to add more ranks later. Right now I'd put the rank at the equivalent of rank 5 in FFXI, make it last a few hours, and improve it later.

Since i'm not familiar with FF11, i guess i should ask Ranking as in, server rank, top 20 to do X thing or kill X things?

If Sanction gear is kinda slotted as the in-between gear for something you get elsewhere, then its likely the ones at the top wouldn't much need it.

And those who do, or feel, they have no hope won't bother getting it. So Their seals have less value then those who don't need the gear anyway.

I think i prefer the current way. Everyone who has seals and buys a Santion gear has a chance at full benefit.

[Lacavi]

Since i'm not familiar with FF11, i guess i should ask Ranking as in, server rank, top 20 to do X thing or kill X things?

If Sanction gear is kinda slotted as the in-between gear for something you get elsewhere, then its likely the ones at the top wouldn't much need it.

And those who do, or feel, they have no hope won't bother getting it. So Their seals have less value then those who don't need the gear anyway.

I think i prefer the current way. Everyone who has seals and buys a Santion gear has a chance at full benefit.

Ranking was actually how far along in the story you were, it was your ranking with your starting city, and was raised by turning in crystals/doing missions. Basically, the same thing a GC is now.

[Viritess]

Ranking was actually how far along in the story you were, it was your ranking with your starting city, and was raised by turning in crystals/doing missions. Basically, the same thing a GC is now.

AH i follow then. Though since we rank up to actually get the sanction gear. I may be missing your point.

So Sargeant's gear would have a 2 hour timer and LT gear a 3 hour? or 1 death to 2 deaths? Balance wise wouldn't we expect LT gear to be alot closer to a Sargeant's gear stat wise since the bonus would be extra deaths and/or time? And is that preferable?

[Lacavi]

The way it worked in FFXI, you killed monsters for points (Guild Seals) you bought the gear. The gear you could buy was based on your rank. Some pieces of gear required Signet (Sanction) in order to get all the benefits of it. Signet lasted through death, and the length of it was based on your rank. (One hour at rank 1, 10 at rank 10, or something like that.)

There is almost no difference between how this works between the games, except that FFXI's system is slightly more in depth with the way that owning a region worked.

[Chardrizard]

Signet gear in FFXI was mostly crap, i dont think its the same situation.

[Lacavi]

Signet gear in FFXI was mostly crap, i dont think its the same situation.

There were pieces that were best in slot for a long time based on the signet effect, actually, the same with GC gear. Some of is isn't worth it, some of it is.

Even then, the argument that they can't do it because Sanction was designed to be strong is still stupid. Signet gave you a lot of benefits, crystals, points for gear, allowed you to take over regions, allowed you to use certain gear effects.

And then we have sanction, which did the same deal, but doubled food duration, gave regen, etc.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Signet also gave a very large defense and evasion boost.

So large was this boost I was able to solo things I couldn't before. If sanction could do that also, I'd probably use it, but since I have no sanction gear, it's useless to me.

[Agoven]

Learn to play stop being a noob and you won't die. YAWN.

[Griss]

The main thing here being signet had persistence through being ko'ed.


Add persistence to sanction. cut the buff time down to say an hour in duration. Keep the scroll rare/ex. Profit

[Krausus]

Is there even any gear for a caster that has sanctions stuff on it, that can't be beat with a meld or 2?

Honest question. I am from Limsa, not sure if there is any. I never look.

you have pretty nice boots for limsa