I WANT MY NASTROND CHARGES BACK RIGHT NOW

[Keichi]

Taranok is right.
The class has to many oGcd. And it was stated years ago, that one goal of the drg rework was, to work an the overload of the skills, he has to use in the burst Mode (around 17 skills).
Reducing Nastrond IS on of the solution. Esspecialy, when the strg is now double (mean, whe use 2 at ones).

Its even true, that it feels like, something is missing now. Because, its became now a bit relaxing. Maybe, whe could habe 2 charges of Nastrond. Because all other ogcd are 2 phase attacks to (except, if whe count Geirskogul as the phase 1 attack).
In addition is it now needed to positionate you correctly, to hit the most people with the line attack.

And, in Theorie have whe now 3 new skill to use.
The spear throwing skill is now potency 350, after a backflip. What is stronger as Nastrond originaly was.
In theorie can whe now jump back, throwing the spear and dass than to the enemie again, in the burst Mode.
I doubt, that this is relatable. But, would be a option now and would include jumps to now.

[Aco505]

In theorie can whe now jump back, throwing the spear and dass than to the enemie again, in the burst Mode.

This will only be a thing in level 70 content or earlier.

Piercing Talon will be a loss regardless at higher levels and especially after acquiring Wyrmwind Thrust. It's just gone from terrible to alright but requiring the use of Elusive Jump to use it is bad.

[Schan]

I would like to have Nastrond back please.

I don't have much in the way to offer on what to remove though.

Mirage Dive doesn't have a place anymore since the scales were removed.

I can see why Life Surge would be a candidate and I would argue you could built it into Drakesbane, however Life Surge does let you have a limited degree of choice in the kit. Some players enjoy having the choice of when to you use the big, fat, life-stealing crit.

In conclusion, i don't know. All I know is that reducing Nastronds isn't it. Or at least do it nearer to 8.0 so I can cope with "it's prep for new expansion skills".

[HikariKurosawa]

I would like to have Nastrond back please.

I don't have much in the way to offer on what to remove though.

Mirage Dive doesn't have a place anymore since the scales were removed.

I can see why Life Surge would be a candidate and I would argue you could built it into Drakesbane, however Life Surge does let you have a limited degree of choice in the kit. Some players enjoy having the choice of when to you use the big, fat, life-stealing crit.

In conclusion, i don't know. All I know is that reducing Nastronds isn't it. Or at least do it nearer to 8.0 so I can cope with "it's prep for new expansion skills".

So mirage dive didn't have a place in dragoon until endwalker with the addition of scales?

[HeavenlyArmed]

So mirage dive didn't have a place in dragoon until endwalker with the addition of scales?

Wait, so you don't even know how Mirage Dive worked pre-DT, and yet you're claiming in the other thread that you quit because you didn't like what DRG had become? Or are you just being annoying about the particular term that he used, planning to jump in with a "erm, akshually, it was the eye part of the gauge that got removed."

[Nikoto]

Wait, so you don't even know how Mirage Dive worked pre-DT, and yet you're claiming in the other thread that you quit because you didn't like what DRG had become? Or are you just being annoying about the particular term that he used, planning to jump in with a "erm, akshually, it was the eye part of the gauge that got removed."

Ignore Hikari, they're either a troll or genuinely argue for no reason about things they do not understand.

[HikariKurosawa]

Wait, so you don't even know how Mirage Dive worked pre-DT, and yet you're claiming in the other thread that you quit because you didn't like what DRG had become? Or are you just being annoying about the particular term that he used, planning to jump in with a "erm, akshually, it was the eye part of the gauge that got removed."

I forgot because they used the wrong term lol, been a while since I played.

Either way, mirage dive is a cooldown damage button, what's wrong with that? Does shinten not have a purpose on sam? Does bhavacakra not have a purpose on nin? Now that I remember what it was actually like, I can't believe people defended the eye system. It was so annoyingly bad to play dragoon in all content because of how LotD worked with eyes.

I'd love for this minority to make a game for themselves with all these contrived annoying battle mechanics. Instead you just act miserable while the majority get what they want in this game. You know you can always collaborate together with all the other unhappy players and make your own failed venture right? Make a discord group and get organized. I'm sure there are like 100 of you and you could make something happen maybe. I don't believe it would be successful, but surely it's better than playing a game you're so unhappy with.

[VerySadDRG]

It was so annoyingly bad to play dragoon in all content because of how LotD worked with eyes.

How so? Please elaborate and explain what was wrong with it.

[VerySadDRG]

Honestly, Square needs to undo everything they did to DRG since 7.0 (with exception of 3 Nastrond charges, those are fine). Job just isn't as fun as it was without Dragon Gauge, Nastronds, and yes, movement management during burst phases (like in P10S and P12S, for example) while figuring out correct order to use all your jumps.