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    I just wanna point out that if they used Suits for the guys and Nier dresses(and suits are cool too?) for the ladies it would have been FAR less jarring

    Its normal to have lots of people with similar formal wear at a funeral

    Its not normal to wear the same selection of sports clothes to a funeral as if you were attending a sports match

    Edit since people are missing the point: if you are gonna stick with the sports clothes, at least shuffle them more, randomize the dyes, make them feel like a crowd of different people

    If you dont want to bother with that, stick with the time skip lf the start of the patch were Wuk literally tells you its been a while and use that as an excuse to have S9 either import or produce formal wear while you were gone
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    Last edited by Raraka; 11-15-2024 at 10:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raraka View Post
    I just wanna point out that if they used Suits for the guys and Nier dresses(and suits are cool too?) for the ladies it would have been FAR less jarring

    Its normal to have lots of people with similar formal wear at a funeral

    Its not normal to wear the same selection of sports clothes to a funeral as if you were attending a sports match
    It's literally said in the game that they don't know what a funeral is, because they've been erasing the memories of the dead for so long that they had to ask Oblivion to look up how to actually mourn. They don't have formal clothes for something they've never had to actually DO.
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    I... didn't even notice this. Who's focusing on the background NPCs in a scene like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    It's literally said in the game that they don't know what a funeral is, because they've been erasing the memories of the dead for so long that they had to ask Oblivion to look up how to actually mourn. They don't have formal clothes for something they've never had to actually DO.
    Now now, you can't expect people to read dialogue in this game. That's asking way too much.
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    I thought the crowd shot was serviceable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    During one of the MSQ scenes there is a crowd with a lot of people gathered and I know this isn't some game design concept used exclusively in this game but the execution of it seems even more low effort than what any company should be doing for something that is considered the main story and not like a NFL Madden crowd.

    While it makes some functional sense if the characters were zoomed out and you wouldn't really notice the details, they do it on characters that are in camera cuts that make them very noticeable.

    I cannot imagine it would have taken a professional with actual dev tools too much time to just randomly create 20-30 more unique NPCs for a crowd in something important like an MSQ like this. At the very least for the ones that are actually focused on within camera cuts. Besides even just their appearance they could've even done different dyes on the clothes considering how many dye colors are available.

    It is crazy to me that they went through this scene and didn't think this stood out as low quality effort when they are shown right out in the open like that.

    *this probably applies to the other crowd scene originally in DT I just didn't pay attention at the time since it wasn't nearly as jarring as this time*
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    It's become so popular to hate on Dawntrail that people will look onto the smallest, most banal things in order to get outraged and whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    It's become so popular to hate on Dawntrail that people will look onto the smallest, most banal things in order to get outraged and whine.
    If you're paying $156/yr to play a video game, people are going to expect effort.

    FFXIV is SE's cashcow. Be nice to see some of the money I put into the game go into giving us quality content. Idk why y'all pretend low effort isn't going to drive people away. Dawntrail's 7.0 playercount should've been evidence enough.

    Meanwhile, Warframe costs $0/yr to play and there's actually things to do in there.

    "tHeN gO pLaY wArFrAme"

    Yeah, I think I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    If you're paying $156/yr to play a video game, people are going to expect effort.

    FFXIV is SE's cashcow. Be nice to see some of the money I put into the game go into giving us quality content. Idk why y'all pretend low effort isn't going to drive people away. Dawntrail's 7.0 playercount should've been evidence enough.

    Meanwhile, Warframe costs $0/yr to play and there's actually things to do in there.

    "tHeN gO pLaY wArFrAme"

    Yeah, I think I will.
    If I'm paying $156 a year then I don't want to waste their time on stupid stuff like making giant crowd scenes immune to nitpicking
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    I think you have to remember that these scenes have to not make a PS4 chug, so they pretty much did the best they could, having too many different outfits on top of having to load in so many npcs probably makes the game chug or significantly increases load times knowing the game's spaghetti code
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    it's not even about the outfits at this point, its that they are literally the same characters. same faces, same hair.

    and it's not 'characters in the background' when it does a panning zoom out over all of them and shows them all, alternating clones, standing in a grid formation. its not natural.

    I actually havent been one of the haters of dawntrail. Not my favorite expansion but its been fine, i dont even dislike wuk lamat. But this scene was incredibly jarring and immersion breaking.
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    Fate can be cruel, but a smile better suits a hero.
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