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    Quote Originally Posted by Zackneifein View Post
    People like you who are basically saying "if you don't like it, don't play it" are the same kind than those who say "Dawntrail is so bad I think the game will close tomorrow". The over-confident, moralizing boring kind.
    But if you are truly unhappy with where the game is steering towards to, story and/or class changes-wise, or otherwise, then solution is -indeed- just to quit.
    No one forces you to keep going when it is not something you enjoy anymore in there and ruins your time.

    Get away from it. Play other games. And then take a look inside it again after a longer break to see how it progressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    But if you are truly unhappy with where the game is steering towards to, story and/or class changes-wise, or otherwise, then solution is -indeed- just to quit.
    No one forces you to keep going when it is not something you enjoy anymore in there and ruins your time.

    Get away from it. Play other games. And then take a look inside it again after a longer break to see how it progressed.
    So, if someone you don't like is elected, you just give up and go in another country ?
    Like I said, I still like this game and I still like playing it. I found Dawntrail MSQ subpar, not irrevocabily bad neither I think it "ruined" FFXIV, but I will talk about what I don't like in place you are supposed to.

    I hope you have never complained about anything in any game or any other situation, since you "just need to quit".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Which one of us should be the ones to break the news that the game is doing very well and the forums aren't representative of anything?
    Yes and no. I'm pretty sure the game is still doing well from economic view (july to september numbers should be out this month, which gonna give us info about that, be the real test will be october to december numbers, that we won't know before february).

    But from a critical point of view, it's not. I mean, Yoshida had to admitted the mixed reception, and the forum are far from being the only place being very critical of Dawntrail. Both main subreddit (r/ffxiv and r/ffxiv discussions) are very critical about the state of FFXIV, and one of them has been know for years to be the place where you got downvoted to oblivion when dared slightly criticize the game (it's still the case for many subject, but about DT writing and the content drought, they're on the same page as the forum). So yeah, on the matter of DT writing and the content drought (I would also add the job complaints to that), the forum are pretty representative.

    I doubt the game will be in financial problems before long, but critically, it took a heavy hit. A lot of players are unhappy and for a live service game, this is bad. when the part of your public that has been nealry permanently subbed for years, some even since 1.0 begin to leave, there is something wrong. A consequence of this bad critical status is that every major FFXIV streamer (yes streaming in a very important part of the gaming ecosystem today, it came make a game rise or fall) went to play other things (mostly wow) since the launch of DT , and they all have the same discourse "I love FFXIV, but there is nothing to do right now". The image of XIV is in a bad place, and image is really important to keep an influx of new players, especially since they don't seem to want to keep the old ones.

    So is the game doing very well? No, I don't think so. It does well money wise (which is the only side SE seem to see) and is clearly not in danger, but I would not say it's doing well. I would add that MMO are a special kind of game that players are attached being for the social contact they had there, or the good time they spent in. People don't leave a game they've been playing for years on a whim. It's a long process. I mean the WoW exodus is a good example of that. How many years did players complains before leaving in mass because they finally had enough. I like the image of a dam. Right now the dam leaking, but has not broken yet. Most of unhappy players are still subbed, and still hoping for SE to get their shit together. But if nothing is done, the dam will break. maybe in a few month, maybe in a few years, but if nothing is done, it will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zackneifein View Post
    Like I said, I still like this game and I still like playing it. I found Dawntrail MSQ subpar, not irrevocabily bad neither I think it "ruined" FFXIV, but I will talk about what I don't like in place you are supposed to.

    I hope you have never complained about anything in any game or any other situation, since you "just need to quit".
    Then it is likely that the person that is being told to quit is not you. There are people on these forums, loud, in fact, that are huffing their own groupthink and getting high off the fact that their (small group) of loud peers thinks the same as them, and it does nothing to change the actual outcome and also only serves to reinforce the divide and push others toward more extreme polarizing views of the material. If someone doesn't enjoy anything about the game anymore and is only staying for something like paying virtual rent, which they don't even use for anything, what's the point? It's also expressly not like a country because this is literally a leisure activity and not a matter of life or death.
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    Well the moment wuk talked i grin and thank square enix for giving me the go to skip the cutscenes. Ty for allowing me a reason to now skip cutscenes square dono.
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    First quest had Wuk Lamat in it. " Ah shit here we go again."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassflower View Post
    Then it is likely that the person that is being told to quit is not you. There are people on these forums, loud, in fact, that are huffing their own groupthink and getting high off the fact that their (small group) of loud peers thinks the same as them, and it does nothing to change the actual outcome and also only serves to reinforce the divide and push others toward more extreme polarizing views of the material. If someone doesn't enjoy anything about the game anymore and is only staying for something like paying virtual rent, which they don't even use for anything, what's the point? It's also expressly not like a country because this is literally a leisure activity and not a matter of life or death.
    Do you have a source to say almost all the ppl are liking the game? Cause i can give sources that says otherwise, like all reviews everywhere. I guess the minority this time is ppl who liked this garbage expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zackneifein View Post
    I hope you have never complained about anything in any game or any other situation, since you "just need to quit".
    If the main draw of the said mmo is starting for me to feel bad, then I simply quit.
    Why letting it me string along (and take my subscription money) and cope for better times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talael View Post
    Do you have a source to say almost all the ppl are liking the game? Cause i can give sources that says otherwise, like all reviews everywhere. I guess the minority this time is ppl who liked this garbage expansion.
    Where on earth did I say that most people like the game? I said that the forums are a small group of loud peers shouting ad nauseam and feeding off of each other. No one is telling people who are neutral to quit the game. People who are coming on here saying they have no reason to play the game at all anymore but for some reason still want to subscribe to it instead of doing something that may actually invoke change are the people that are being told to quit.
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    i think they listen. that important the forum are they for feedback. i didn't think they bring Sphene but i still suggest it because she has some promise as character through character development need work

    Spar for example between wuk lamat and WoL with suggest of saftey and seructiry i think and i hope Wuk lamat is reveal as a spoil child who had everything hand to her and when push come shove she panick we already seen this once this will great example why she not capabilities of leadership. it also bring out worst in her a more character development.

    spar with all combat and at same challange her ideals this was problem with Wuk Lamat and the WoL someone who been around world and back. if Square Enix really want make the WoL she or he would point the failure of her ideal and beleif.

    my view is that gone forward expansion wise Squar enix should have scion of seven dawn focus large issue and Warrior of Light focus on something small like a reincation of sphene this would been still imprtant to story because The WoL would still had travel around land tried find sphene family if she had any evenualty it tied back into the main story called and yet the Scion would still need WoL to help move forward.

    my ideal for expansion for after this one would called soulbringer. this focus on WoL gather the lost fragment of her or his soul but all while since these are soul in it self the source would be cause form Ascian and Venat to be reborn as so they get chance to explore

    for example i away thought zero was the part of warrior of light soul for world of darkness.
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