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    blueswablu's Avatar
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    Seren Ipheion
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I feel like dragoon has been reduced to just another melee job. It's beyond recognition to the job I played in Shadowbringers. I was already devastated when we lost Dragon Sight, where I was able to pick a person to bring in the damage buff. Now we're losing Nastrond. What's the point of playing this job if I can't weave Nastrond in between my rotation?

    I'm not sure who these changes are for, but from the amount of posts I'm seeing about DT drg, I don't think it's for the drg mains. I'm upset that all these changes have taken away the things that make dragoon a unique job. Its thing is JUMPING. Why are you taking away its jumps?
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    Last edited by blueswablu; 11-12-2024 at 02:59 PM.

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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by blueswablu View Post
    I'm not sure who these changes are for, but from the amount of posts I'm seeing about DT drg, I don't think it's for the drg mains. I'm upset that all these changes have taken away the things that make dragoon a unique job. It's thing is JUMPING. Why are you taking away its jumps?
    You're exactly right. As we've been discussing in the other DRG feedback thread, SE seems to value the feedback of people who actively despise any given job over the dedicated players who main that job. They're chasing this dragon (no pun intended) of appeasing a group of people who dislike anything that isn't just rolling their face on their keyboard, and if they have to ruin the job for everyone who has mained it for years they apparently have no problem with that at all.

    In a game with over twenty jobs, why is it such a bad thing that one has a busy burst phase or dragon eyes to manage? If someone doesn't like that they have plenty of other less busy jobs to choose from. Why ruin it for everyone that liked it the way it was?
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    AstralSkye's Avatar
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    Astral Skye
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Removes BOTD effect
    Removes DS
    Removes both charges of SS
    Makes GSK a 60s
    Removes 2 charges of NAS
    Makes winged glide not a jump
    Makes RotD not a jump
    Makes SC not a jump
    Keeps MD
    Keep LS

    Absolute cinema SE. Wonder how you'll strip away DRGs identity next time.
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    Anna Meii
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    Lamia
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Made an account JUST to protest these changes. Taking away Nastronds over Life Surge because of button bloat is such a terrible move. Please revert this, idc if I deal slightlyless damage. The job fantasy is being ruined with more and more buttons being taken away.
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    T'eliza Jomai
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 38
    This is an insane change. I can't believe they even humored the idea of this. There's no way they thought this was an actually good change right? This should be reverted as soon as possible. Being busy is the point.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    In case my sarcasm wasn't detected in my earlier post. Removing the extra Nastrond uses is super lame. Get rid of Life Surge if you want to declutter DRG's burst. Three Nastronds was super cool. You made DRG less cool. Please reconsider these changes.
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    Kate Aurum
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I just can't understand why they keep removing all skill expression from this game, jobs keep getting boring with the excuses that it'll be easier and less busy. There are many always of doing that keeping the good and unique parts of each job.

    Dragoon is getting the same treatment as summoner, slowly turning into a boring job just to be easier for people, but why dont u guys just give a tutorial for each job instead of just turning all into the same thing? Its really frustrating seeing my favorite job being reduced to this. We just lost all the fun things we had: nastronds, life of the dragon, dragon sight...

    For me shadowbringers were the best time for dragoon and its just sad that the job will never get back to what it were.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Like, if they're gonna simplify things, at least have good taste. Reducing the number of Nastrond uses is not good taste.
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    Robemax Dragoonblood
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    Lamia
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    Lancer Lv 100

    these changes suck

    TLR i really don't understand what's been going through the job development and balance team's head over there lately, i've been playing dragoon pretty much since i started playing the game it has always been my main class all the way from the very beginning up to now in dawntrail, i've seen skills come and go, but i've never seen the job lose as much of it's identity as it has now after endwalker dragoon is starting to feel more and more like "just another melee job" what happened to all the cool stuff we could do? and actually embracing the fantasy of being a Dragoon ever since the removal of dragon sight and jumps in exchange for dashes and other ogcd's i've been liking the job less and less and it feels horrible because i love dragoon it's in my character's surname for god's sake and i don't want to see it's identity completely shattered and have it just feel like another generic job to play, please give the dragon knight it's reputation back.
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    Reginald Cain
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Hey yall i started this game on dragoon back at the start of stormblood. I remember heavy thrust before they moved it to reaper under the guise of mark of death. I remember actually managing my job gauge, macroing dragon sight and getting as many nastronds off as i could in a window. that being said while i miss these things I feel like dragoon is about to pop off. In the later half of shadowbringers monk was in the spot dragoon is now. all of its core features gutted and a very basic shell was left behind in preparation for its massive rework. I never liked monk a whole lot but this expansion it feels amazing to me and summoner's rework was awesome in endwalker. My advice is to be very vocal about what you want that rework to look like because sadly I don't think they will revert anything beyond the recent nastrond changes. Kaiten never came back but samurai getting zanshin, tendo iajutsu and merciful eyes combined with third eye really helps fill the void. Think about what you liked in the old kit and keep making new post after post about how you want that twisted into a new kit.
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