Viera hat compatibility is tied to hair styles

[Mahou-Shoujo]

It's been 5 years since Shadowbringers.
With 7.0 they gave us a graphical update and now Viera can wear some hoods.
The hoods we are able to wear are all ones that hide hairstyles completely.

(This post is mainly about Viera, as Hrothgar has different heads, but it's probably a very similar situation.)

Hairstyles in this game have 2 versions, one when wearing nothing/small accessories etc. and one for when you wear an actual hat so that the hair fits. It's basically either a squished version or with very fluffy hair and ponytails, the ponytail is hidden under that cap.

Viera players have no problem with ears clipping through hats, the same way they clip through hoods that we already have available, so the main issue is the hair not having a hat version in the metadata.

Devs, I am BEGGING you, either make the Viera hairstyles hat compatible (17 for female and 17 for male, you don't even need to do them all in one go.) yourselves or hire someone temporarily to do it. If you post a job listing, trust me you will get more than enough applicants. Hell, I'm sure there are many who would do it for free, myself included.

Every patch you add new gear that we cannot wear, even actual job gear we can't wear. It's not a hard or expensive fix.

I've added images to show examples of how other races hair works compared to Viera.





You could either squish the hair or hide most under the hat.



We can wear the hood that hides the hair but not the one that still shows it.

[XianRo]

I just think a less time-consuming, resource intensive idea would be...making hats exist on Universal hair options hroth and viera have been getting since 6.0. if its too much trouble to make them fit race-specific options.
Of course I do need those qualifiers because I know, we all know how terribly difficult these models are to work with, how much time it must all take.
Please ignore the devs using time and money to add voices to Doman Mahjong, or making more clutter and assets in arr areas, or making feet not look like ps1 assets, or making sure pantyhose and fishnets are properly transparent. That all took maybe a couple minutes to do, I'm certain, its two player races being locked out of a functional gearslot for 5 years thats too much.

[Espon]

Hair already has the ability to squish and hide various bits like ponytail and scalp, they're just don't have the resources to do it for viera and hrothgar since SE's still a small indie company.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

Yeah like, I wouldn't mind if they just made it so universal hairstyles let you wear the hats and they backdated the race specific ones.

It's getting ridiculous at this point, so many new pieces of gear we can't use, and it's literally not that hard to fix.

Reading the new prelim-patch notes just really rubbed it in, another set of glams with hats that I know we will not be able to wear AND they've un-gender locked more sets of gear which does involve the race specific models.

I even think Hroths are similar to Viera in that we have X amount of racial hairstyles but half of them are just without the bangs or other small edits so it's not like there's even that many racial styles to fix, but again, I wouldn't mind if they just made hats available for universal hairstyles.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

Yeah like, I wouldn't mind if they just made it so universal hairstyles let you wear the hats and they backdated the race specific ones.

It's getting ridiculous at this point, so many new pieces of gear we can't use, and it's literally not that hard to fix.

Reading the new prelim-patch notes just really rubbed it in, another set of glams with hats that I know we will not be able to wear AND they've un-gender locked more sets of gear which does involve the race specific models.

I even think Hroths are similar to Viera in that we have X amount of racial hairstyles but half of them are just without the bangs or other small edits so it's not like there's even that many racial styles to fix, but again, I wouldn't mind if they just made hats available for universal hairstyles.

It's so depressing at this point.

[aciidiia]

That all took maybe a couple minutes to do, I'm certain, its two player races being locked out of a functional gearslot for 5 years thats too much.

Especially with things like Matoya's Hat, which is a unique gear item that you get for buying the book with your real life money, still not being equippable by Viera after two whole expansions since they were released. Like it's genuinely getting kind of ridiculous now lmao

[Erin1491]

I always try to explain this to people. The ears are an issue for SE, yes, they seem to be weird about when they can clip and when they can't. But the more apparent issue with adding hats to this race is the hair. Race specific hairs don't have the rigging to change for when a hat is equipped. Most of the work is already finished for the other hairstyles that aren't exclusive to the race. This rigging should never have been handled like this in the first place let alon be ignored this long since shadow bringers. It's honestly just depressing at this point. I'm so tired of being told "we are working on it, please be patient." And then another two years ago by without anything. I just want to wear hats. Race specific hair or not.

[Espon]

I always try to explain this to people. The ears are an issue for SE, yes, they seem to be weird about when they can clip and when they can't. But the more apparent issue with adding hats to this race is the hair. Race specific hairs don't have the rigging to change for when a hat is equipped. Most of the work is already finished for the other hairstyles that aren't exclusive to the race. This rigging should never have been handled like this in the first place let alon be ignored this long since shadow bringers. It's honestly just depressing at this point. I'm so tired of being told "we are working on it, please be patient." And then another two years ago by without anything. I just want to wear hats. Race specific hair or not.

They're only an issue because SE sees no financial benefit in putting in the extra time to make hats work for the newer races. It's the same reason why miqo'te ears are constantly cut off with most new hats. Easier to just tell people that it's too difficult, when in reality it's just cutting costs where ever they can. Players have long since fixed the issue that SE is unwilling to.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

They're only an issue because SE sees no financial benefit in putting in the extra time to make hats work for the newer races. It's the same reason why miqo'te ears are constantly cut off with most new hats. Easier to just tell people that it's too difficult, when in reality it's just cutting costs where ever they can. Players have long since fixed the issue that SE is unwilling to.

Yep! Modders even did the detail like that picture where its not just the ears clipping through but has the hole and edges. But I'm not even asking for that, let them clip, just stop locking us out of most gear

[Erin1491]

The "just use the mods" argument isn't fully valid though. Not everyone plays on PC. I play on PlayStation 5. At this point I would rather they just come out and say it's never going to happen rather than dancing around it or giving vague updates every other year In some random interview.