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    New Zones/Instances with the same assets

    With the current... not so stellar reception that 7.1 is getting, It got me thinking:

    "What if we recycled the alliance/dungeons into mini zones or new instances?"

    To elaborate, let me pitch you this idea with what was shown of the Alliance raid

    Pitch 1:
    You complete your first run trough the quest, and after that, a zone unlocks, not a big zone like the current ones, but a smaller one similar to ARRs. You can go around the city and close outskirts, with vendors, sidequest to give some fan service to 11, and perhaps some fete/critical engagement type of event that happens now and then

    Pitch 2 [DT spoiler]:
    After doing Alexandria for the first time, you unlock "Echoes from another shard" at the Mistrel, when you queue, you are glamoured as a character from FF9 depending on the job you queue as, and play trough the Alexandria intro/show/escape scenes (with each boss+hallway segment corresponding to one). You can smack this in Expert as a variant version of Alexandria

    And why is this good for the game?

    On one hand, we get more content variety. While it may appear low effort, it would be designed that way to maximize asset re-use. We already have the FF9 themes, we already have the alexandria dungeon (just cover up the electrope with vines and plants?), We already can make glamours of FF9 characters. So by having all this IN the game, you can cut development time by a lot

    Furthermore, it also works as a plug for FF9, attracting players that havent played it, to give it a go. I personally borrowed 9 from a friend and had a great time, hence why I think Alexandria is a good candidate

    Let me know what you think!. Is "smart" asset re-use good or bad for content?, does the novelty of variety outweight how "cheap" it may feel for you?
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    I agree that dungeons should be made into zones after they are complete. I've thought this for quite a while really.

    The reason is because dungeons are, in many cases, part of the "pathway" to another zone, or part of the zone itself, and for RP purposes you may want to travel "through" that dungeon but it's needlessly annoying to do so.

    For example, Ala Mhigo is part of The Lochs and we could see elements of the dungeon updated to reflect its current state.

    Ghimlyt Dark is effectively part of the route to Garlemald, but instead we have to settle for taking an airship.

    Not being able to access these places as if they are areas afterwards and interact with anyone else that goes there makes the game world needlessly smaller.

    It's a small detail, but I wish small details like this weren't just ignored.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    I think it would be fine, so long as it isn't clearly phoned in

    Personally, in a semi related tangent, had suggested a expansion to the grand company mission content where you can revisit new segments of dungeons to obtain materials and establish unique land resources (among also the open world), like you can go to one of those lava dungeons killing monsters that took up residence after your MSQ runthrough of the space (so its a lore'd in visit) and you break down a wall to have a new area where the purpose is establish and build an foundry which provides new gear to your squadron and upgrades to your GC seal purchases. Similarly also revisiting dungeons for quests more often (we did it a couple times), to get lore and revisit areas at a slower pace (probably into bite sizes so you don't have to reWALK the whole thing, but just get nice POI experience).

    If they can ever figure out instanced housing, would love for them to reuse spaces as backdrops. Azim Steppe house here I come !
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    It's sad when players are begging SE to be cheap.
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    I wonder what the newly added area is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post


    I wonder what the newly added area is.
    I'd be surprised if it's an actual area where you can have battles any time and not an NPC room or instanced solo-duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    I'd be surprised if it's an actual area where you can have battles any time and not an NPC room or instanced solo-duty.
    Doubt it, I mean for Omega we had the omega waiting room, and for Ivalice they added that giant airship area where you just hang around and do nothing. But it would be downright amazing if they added a full XI zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Doubt it, I mean for Omega we had the omega waiting room, and for Ivalice they added that giant airship area where you just hang around and do nothing. But it would be downright amazing if they added a full XI zone.
    They've shown some pictures of a non-dark Jeuno that appears to be different from the raid, it could be that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post


    I wonder what the newly added area is.
    Oh I didn't catch that!; My guess would be an instanced area where you fight or similar to the Solution 9 Gym, or something like the Doman Enclave perhaps?, I dont want to get my hopes up, but I would enjoy a full zone too ;~;
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post


    I wonder what the newly added area is.
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