Thread: Patch 7.1 Notes: PvP

Originally Posted by Sinstrel

Although FL specific changes are coming in 7.2 this doesn't mean FL wont be drastically affected by 7.1

On the contrary (for many of the newer players) the x.1 PvP updates usually bring some very big job changes. Very big, on the magnitude of job identity level changes. The most recent example being the shift from ShB PvP to EW PvP and crystalline conflict style job kits.

So although Frontline specifically wont get any updates, the job changes themselves will surely completely break the current meta. The addition of level 100 abilities in the PvP job kits alone will cause things to change considerably. I expect to see a few old abilities completely changed or even outright removed (miracle of nature, salted earth, riddle of earth, etc.) So it will be fun to see what the new OP jobs are, haha.

I really hope you're right. What worries me is at no point in any of the PLL or Notes has any reference been made to what is currently wrong with FL. And if we follow recent trends and rebalancing/changes in jobs are based on the 5v5 mode, I don't see any of the structural changes in FL being addressed at all. Like if the meta changes, it'll be a CC-based accident and may well be for the worse.

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

That's my concern, that they make a change that unintentionally does wonders for Frontlines but because it messes with something in Crystaline Conflict, they change it right back, lol.

Yeah we have a lot of potential bad decisions to fade.

Seems like a lot of QOL changes.

If frontlines is not affected much that means the devs are expecting the community to test out the changes. That's all. We already heard more changes coming for 6.2.

Originally Posted by Cidel

Still think it's too early to be Chicken Little-ing. It was already mentioned that jobs' abilities are being tweaked if not outright reworked and changed in 7.1 so much so that some jobs might feel different, and that only PCT and VPR kits aren't being adjusted. What exactly that entails, we don't know outside of the copium and hopium that the more oppressive abilities and LBs are either no more or not nearly as potent.

What I do find amusing is that they've made RW adjustments that feel like they've essentially walked back the nerfs to mechs they made before Hidden Gorge launched. Which is great, because right now mechs can be basically shut-down by as little as a couple mobile DPS harassing them.

My broader concern with all this is that SQEX sees healthy queue times and participation in FL on most DCs and has concluded "this is fine." Hence they make changes to RW which is struggling for players, and fail to address the glaring problems in FL.

Is there a way for the devs to add a 2 minute kick timer for offline players? I get that if you're in game and not moving, the game kicks you after a minute or two, but it takes 5 minutes of the game to vote a player out and that's already a 1/4 of the game.

Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

Is there a way for the devs to add a 2 minute kick timer for offline players? I get that if you're in game and not moving, the game kicks you after a minute or two, but it takes 5 minutes of the game to vote a player out and that's already a 1/4 of the game.

I'd certainly be happier with a more aggressive automatic system. No doubt players would find ways to circumvent it, and with vote-kicking being non-trivial that only leaves the cumbersome option of reporting such players after the end of the match.

Originally Posted by EmilySummerstar

Today we encountered the dreaded Samurai swarm. Someone shouted "What do we do?" Someone else came up with the brilliant counter "DON'T ATTACK ... ANYBODY!!" Everybody listened but we got slaughtered anyway. After the battle, we learned that nobody attacked anybody. Thank goodness. Whew.

Edit:
Oops wrong thread XD

The weekends do tend to encourage this sort of thing.