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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    Because your definition of "midcore" content is indistinguishable from what is regarded as "casual" content. Hunts, Fates, dungeons, normal raids, they are all the "casual" content. They can be cleared doing lots of mistakes, they don't have any enrage to beat (i.e. no requirement for doing the job rotation even remotely correct), heck most people get carried through most of these activities anyway. Failstates require a significant part of the group to repeatedly fail over and over. Any content that wants to be labeled "midcore", needs to up the ante in some way. And yes, Bozja is no "midcore" content, it's utterly casual, except for Red Choctober. And you can regularly see Red Choctober utterly annihilating all the "midcore" players. because despite it only having 3 mechanics, the "midcore" players approach it with the "casual" mindset of "not bothering to learn anything".

    So yes, Extremes, at the very least the first 2 of an expansion, and this tier's first savage fight, are midcore content. You actually have to do something there, and failstates that cannot be avoided when most of the group mess up. But they are still easier than some later savage fights which do much higher skill level.
    Its literally not, I said what was casual and I said what was midcore in this thread. But I can rehash what midcore is for you if you'd like

    midcore is Expert Dungeons, Normal Raids, variant dungeons, Alliance raids on occasion(mostly the shadowbringer onwards ones), Deep dungeons, and Field farms like bozja. Things at those levels of difficulty you need to know your class proficiently enough to play the game without dogging your team.

    Hardcore is extremes, savages, criterion, ultimates, unreals, chaos aliance because not only do they need you to know your class, you're fighting an Enrage Timer and need higher levels of communication to clear. Take enrage off extremes and i'd fully agree they would immediately become midcore content. (like holy shit dude they literally have a different duty tab too, like do you call ultimates hardcore+++ because they are harder than savages? you don't, even if extremes are the easiest hardcore content they are still literally under the umbrella)

    I just said what casual was just above so i wont repeat that.

    Does that clarify? in this case HC is getting an ultimate, unreal, extreme, and a chaos alliance this patch, Midcore is getting an expert dungeon and alliance raid, casuals are getting QOL, MSQ and some beast tribe quests. Tell me where the issue isn't?

    *not to mention HC people get to do everything else in the patch too, as there is no you do this and you do that, they literally just get more to do
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    Last edited by ZoReee; 11-06-2024 at 08:39 AM.