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Thread: SCH kit

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    SCH kit

    Am I the only one hoping they add a bit more healing to SCH's pvp kit?

    AST can heal itself and others easily. SCH only supplies shields and can heal via the LB.

    Would be nice to have healing abilities in pvp without resorting to LB.
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    naaa, it's good enough
    PVP Is the only place where each class has some decent identity, let it be
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    SCH is a healer

    Why does not it heal?

    WHM and AST do heal, no need for LB.

    It can heal without diminishing it's identity as a DoT healer.

    Sage is in a similar spot.
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    This iteration of PvP plays more into job identity so SCH and SGE are more support oriented than direct healing. None of them are supposed to be healers in the PvE sense.

    SCH just needs something to be less reliant on your team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecia View Post
    This iteration of PvP plays more into job identity so SCH and SGE are more support oriented than direct healing. None of them are supposed to be healers in the PvE sense.

    SCH just needs something to be less reliant on your team.
    great reasoning.

    I find myself more vulnerable with SCH than with AST in pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    SCH is a healer

    Why does not it heal?

    WHM and AST do heal, no need for LB.

    It can heal without diminishing it's identity as a DoT healer.

    Sage is in a similar spot.
    Seraph heals ten times better than anything other healers do have, precisely because it's a LB and it provides free purifies on the whole team as well. It's not even comparable.

    SCH is an armchair tactician, the whole idea behind the job is debuffing the enemy teams on damage and buffing yours on damage. You also provide party wide shields which is nothing to scoff at, and mummification is crazy good. Adloquium still heals though, even if it's not much, and the base shield gained alongside isn't bad either. SCH is a barrier healer, not a raw healer, and does fulfill that role pretty well.
    SGE plays more like a DPS, but still offers shielding solutions, but it's not a support healer like SCH is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Seraph heals ten times better than anything other healers do have, precisely because it's a LB and it provides free purifies on the whole team as well. It's not even comparable.

    SCH is an armchair tactician, the whole idea behind the job is debuffing the enemy teams on damage and buffing yours on damage. You also provide party wide shields which is nothing to scoff at, and mummification is crazy good. Adloquium still heals though, even if it's not much, and the base shield gained alongside isn't bad either. SCH is a barrier healer, not a raw healer, and does fulfill that role pretty well.
    SGE plays more like a DPS, but still offers shielding solutions, but it's not a support healer like SCH is.
    Yeah I was gonna comment that Sage is far from a support healer. Sage is definitely a dps job in PvP.
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    What SCH need is more passive defence(armor) - inc AST too...
    (they're way weaker than WHM/SGE in terms of survivability).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    What SCH need is more passive defence(armor) - inc AST too...
    (they're way weaker than WHM/SGE in terms of survivability).
    I'd worry that if you make either less squishy you'll have SCH stacks DoTting the enemy into oblivion and even more effective DRK+AST parties.
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    Well, now Summon Seraph is a normal action but got its AoE heal shifted onto the new version of SCH LB which is a PvP version of Seraphism that also makes Broil an AoE and gives your entire party one-time CC nullification.

    Adloqium also reduces damage instead of boosting it and latter effect was just baked into Expedient instead.
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