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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6 View Post
    One day you will realize that it's people like us who care the most of them all. The world needs more people who help others become mature and responsible adults.
    Oh my Fing word the arrogance and conceit. You might just be trolling but there are people that really think like that. It would be that attitude that shows immaturity. Eventually you realise that 'people' as in 'humans' and their faults, won't ever change except over evolutionary timescales.
    You have to work with what you have often in life
    There are all sorts of things you can change (software and UI is what we are taking about) is a trivial to change on the scale of the universes challenges.
    But people you can't.
    It is not the job of square enix to teach people maturity by breaking their knee caps when they make a mistake.
    It is square enixs job to a greater or where necessary lesser degree, to seek to kiss the customers arse, so that we keep giving them our money. Make us happy dare I say it
    I remember there was a time that people thought that was what distinguished XIV SQX from WoW Blizzard.
    The concern is not just for this user. But for all future users

    I'm not going to respond again to you as either you are trolling me, or you are (for now at least) irredeemably lacking in insight. (Dare I say it 'maturity'). Ie your not going to profoundly change your point of view any more than I am.

    This is just like the attitude I can across recently from ultimate raiders.
    "You don't need more casual content"
    "you still have hardcore content you haven't done."
    "You just have to get good like me"
    "You just have to learn to value the things I value"
    "You need to change, because changing software is not an option"

    Fme

    I think my concern is SQX are ignoring all this because they've seen all these old arguments before and they came and went then and they'll go way again this time. They might be right. They might not be though and some if those earlier dismissals were perhaps also a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    "You just have to get good like me"
    Casual doesn't automatically mean you can't be decent at the game, some of my friends don't touch above Alliance raids and are really good at their jobs and the game in general.

    Please stop this nonsense.

    Being a casual is fine, you can be good at the game while only being a casual player who does alliance raids or whatever as their endgame.

    Being good at the game does NOT mean you need to clear ultimates and savages.

    Being good means you're able to perform well in the level of content you do, and know your main jobs well enough to complete said content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    Casual doesn't automatically mean you can't be decent at the game, some of my friends don't touch above Alliance raids and are really good at their jobs and the game in general.

    Please stop this nonsense.

    Being a casual is fine, you can be good at the game while only being a casual player who does alliance raids or whatever as their endgame.

    Being good at the game does NOT mean you need to clear ultimates and savages.

    Being good means you're able to perform well in the level of content you do, and know your main jobs well enough to complete said content.
    Not sure what might have been misunderstood but I agree with not 99% of what you say but 100%.
    Casual is about the level of commitment required, not the level of skill. Getting up to the standard required to match Extremes PF descriptions for example takes a lot of commitment. (Guides, clearing to a level, practicing to you can guarantee that level because god forbid it takes you a couple of runs to remember)
    Change that PF culture, and extemes can become casual content tomorrow.
    And to be clear changing PF culture is NOT the job of people themselves to change. PF system has been around ages, what we have now is the equilibrium behaviour for EU cultures, Vs NA cultures, Vs JP cultures.
    Changing PF culture requires changing the PF tools, changing the instance incentives ( eg moving into Duty Finder, adding more nuanced matchmaking options like clear phase 1 , clear phase 2 etc, offering rewards for not bailing after the first wipe)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6 View Post
    One day you will realize that it's people like us who care the most of them all. The world needs more people who help others become mature and responsible adults.
    My one mistake in a video game makes me less of a mature and responsible adult? Does that mean you spending time being a prick on a random forum board for a game makes you even less of one?

    Makes me wonder how perfect you are outside of this forum post; are you projecting your own failures upon me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomoken View Post
    My one mistake in a video game makes me less of a mature and responsible adult?
    No, we all make mistakes. It's your begging for special treatment that does that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6 View Post
    No, we all make mistakes. It's your begging for special treatment that does that.
    Begging = making a forum post in effort to see if I can turn 90 days into only a couple days just in case? OK guy.

    The adult/mature thing to do would be to try and not give up, but apparently you're a sad, projecting little quitter with a sub-par life to the point you find joy and comfort down-playing random people you don't know on the internet in a video game forum. How courageous and mature of you.
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    Last edited by Tomoken; 11-07-2024 at 10:47 PM.

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    nah people must be trolling

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    SE support reminds me of "the place that sends you mad" from "the twelve tasks of Asterix". How hard can it be to just move his character back to the old server? Just do it.
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    SE support is notorious for being unhelpful to non-jp customers since ff11. At least they didn't put on the smile song during the phone wait to spite you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirwen View Post
    SE support is notorious for being unhelpful to non-jp customers since ff11. At least they didn't put on the smile song during the phone wait to spite you.
    "Thank you for contacting Square-Enix Customer support. You will be speaking with Wuk Lamat shortly."
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