Quote Originally Posted by Ritsugamesh View Post
I swear to god people don't even read the 'other side' of the argument. Nobody wants a 5 stack premade stomping 5 solo players. That is so obviously a terrible idea it amazes me people think this is what is requested. Literally no game with PVP would do this, can we stop already.

If a duo is in the match, the matchmaker puts a duo on the other team. Literally perfectly balanced and duo q is implemented. Job done. How is this so hard to comprehend?
Your post is funny because I've played League of Legends since season 3, Overwatch since launch, Heroes of the Storm since launch... all of these are PVP-centric games and ALL OF THEM can and do regularly throw full teams of solo players up against full-size premades, specifically because queue times are supposed to be no longer than a minute or two, but the premade has been in queue for half an hour and matchmaking just wants to put them in a game already.

Overwatch in particular got so much grief for this that eventually, Blizzard changed matchmaking to intentionally skew MMR balancing when premades are involved, to the point where if you're in a full-size premade, everyone in your premade is bronze, and you get matched against a full solo team, the solos will all be gold and platinum and steamroll you through skill difference alone. I get that they were trying to override the community's perception of "5-stack vs solos, I'm best off leaving the game or inting to get it over with faster", but it ruined the game for my friend group and most of us uninstalled after we went multiple extended sessions without a single win. Eventually someone went and looked up our opponents and that's how we found out.