Is there data on 'which' players 'farmed' DT Extreme while high-end but not Savage?

[Kes13a]

maybe you arent aware of this.. but if anyone, even one person in the party, uploads their logs.. they do not require the knowledge or CONSENT of anyone else in the party. period

so, who is being moronic here?

[Gurgeh]

maybe you arent aware of this.. but if anyone, even one person in the party, uploads their logs.. they do not require the knowledge or CONSENT of anyone else in the party. period

so, who is being moronic here?

requires benefit of the doubt. And 132 I don't choose to give much. And your objecting to breaking of ToS but your 'not' opted out.
No.
I could respect 'not' opting out 100%. But to then derail my question. Be unpleasant about it. And engage in hypocrisy. No
Besides I see two options, either a heck of a nerve, or a moron. I suspect the former. I'll let Aoi choose which.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

requires benefit of the doubt. And 132 I don't choose to give much. And your objecting to breaking of ToS but your 'not' opted out.
No.
I could respect 'not' opting out 100%. But to then derail my question. Be unpleasant about it. And engage in hypocrisy. No
Besides I see two options, either a heck of a nerve, or a moron. I suspect the former. I'll let Aoi choose which.

If it was opt in, I'd concede your point. Opt out of a website when most players don't even know the lodestone exists is quite silly of you to focus on




The only way to get that data is via achievements BTW, and those are hidden by default.

[Gurgeh]

If it was opt in, I'd concede your point. Opt out of a website when most players don't even know the lodestone exists is quite silly of you to focus on




The only way to get that data is via achievements BTW, and those are hidden by default.

Yeah but Aoi is big on ToS apparently. And has 132 logs in FFlogs.... they know about opt-out.

Also... thanks. That is a least possibly the next best thing to answer thank you Valkyie. (Which I why I put the thing about mounts, as that is obviously and indication of farming discounting the % who got a drop in the first four fights)

[Iscah]

I'm one of the people who has cleared the extremes but not savage.

Up to this point I was more likely to ignore high-level content and spend my time levelling my alts, but the graphics update and style shift has made most of my characters "not themselves" so I've shelved them until (if and when) the models get fixed.

The Valigarmanda weapons were cool so I wanted to learn that fight.

I might not have bothered with Everkeep as I didn't like the jewellery that drops from it, but I accidentally signed up to the wrong party one time and ended up there, and the group encouraged me to stay and learn the fight. Now I'm willing to jump in if I see there's a party struggling to attract members.

Savage, on the other hand... I didn't like any of the outfit pieces on offer so I didn't even bother unlocking it. I had kinda-sorta plans to at least take one of my alts through Dawntrail who would better suit the gear style and the mount, but never got around to it due to a mix of busy IRL and being put off by how much my character doesn't look like himself right now.

So, yeah. If it wasn't for the second character I might have tried savage on my main for the sake of it, but it seemed like double effort to do that and all the gearing up if I was going to do it again on my alt, but then I didn't actually get around to doing it on my alt.

Gearing-wise I'd rather putter along in my mix of raid/tome/dungeon gear than worry about being best-in-slot.

[Kuroka]

Thats what i hate on FF logs, i had to create a account there and opt out of their BS...

[Gurgeh]

Thats what i hate on FF logs, i had to create a account there and opt out of their BS...

Yeah they pretend to give you an option about your privacy but its not the one they'd give if they really cared.
That's the one thing I'd like SQX to take action on if they at all could, and thats to compel fflogs with "look, its give and take but don't take the piss, changing to opt-in, and well all then get on"
TO be fair that would be hard. I doubt its illegal to own data unless its copyrightable and I wonder if you can copy right this kind of data. You can challenge when its obtained illegally if you will... but fflogs had nothing to do with that transgression.

And I'd sympathise that killing fflogs... would in reality kill the game. That's just reallity.

[TaleraRistain]

There's a reason that stuff is "Don't ask, don't tell". Yoshi-P knows they're used. But we don't go barking about it on the official forums.

[Ritsugamesh]

I'm one of this cohort.

I came into DT with renewed vigor, as I have been part of the savage raiding scene over the years. ARR, HW, ShB mostly were my times as part of a proper static and I do loved organised raiding. I was enjoying the fights, PFing the extremes and getting a good number of clears on each.

When I was faced with the tomestone grind to get the gear to do the savage PF to get the gear to clear savage a bit quicker next time until it all gets binned in 7.2 I just couldn't bring myself to do it yet again.

I haven't really logged on since. I think I'm like 705-710 or something. I just have no time for what is fundamentally pointless. Especially with the added pain of PFing the whole thing.

[Gurgeh]

I think we are losing track of the question or the point.

Of those farming Extreemes (just clearing 3/4 times doesn't count) what % of those then succeeded engaging savage level content.

2 or 3 could prove many things but not at all what my question is interested in. It probably only proves either that some people like to try and be helpful and/or maybe also don't get things like confirmation bias, statistics, and the importance of sample size, or that they think they know my concern and just like to be a contrarian.