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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Dungeons having multiple paths should probably rely more on a random system than actual differences (which will just generate conflict and metas). Random patrols and objectives other than just bosses being back into dungeons, and dungeons feeling more natural and less artificial than what they are currently would be great, but care must be taken not to get back into old Totorak models that were excruciatingly painful for replayability. Exploration I never quite understood that concept in a world where maps can be explored within 30 minutes.

    Else I think I do agree in general with the gist of your OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    Sastasha has these. No one ever visits them, because they're optional. And also because if you've been there once, then it's not as if a second visit reveals anything new.

    Make these lore sections "required," and they're Just Another Thing You Do On Your Way to the Daily Roulette Bonus, much like Haurchefant in Aitiascope.
    I think the problem with Sastasha's lore is that is off the path, more people would give it the Haurchefant treatment if it were on the main path or part of a boss fight or some such. I do agree though that making something interesting for the hundredth time is a problem - A problem that SE is supposed to pay people to know/figure out the answers to.
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    Arlythe Ish'toma
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    Is it doomposting season again?
    Every time a game is having a rough patch they pop up

    If anything, I feel like there should be more challenging content for small groups of 4.
    Like a savage version of 4-player dungeons you can do with your close friends instead of relying to statics that can have a less reliable longevity.
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    Last edited by Arlythe; 11-04-2024 at 05:41 AM.

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    Lilia Atlantia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlythe View Post
    Is it doomposting season again?
    Every time a game is having a rough patch they pop up

    If anything, I feel like there should be more challenging content for small groups of 4.
    Like a savage version of 4-player dungeons you can do with your close friends instead of relying to statics that can have a less reliable longevity.
    Haven't we been on a rough patch for the last few months or depending on you ask, the last 3 years
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    We can start doomposting in 7.25 when the relic comes out and if its bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kajv95 View Post
    Haven't we been on a rough patch for the last few months or depending on you ask, the last 3 years
    I'm one of those people who actually liked not having to grind much for relics.
    I had a lot of fun in EW.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    We can start doomposting in 7.25 when the relic comes out and if its bad.
    and what are we doing til 7.25?
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    I didn't read beyond the first few sentences because you are right. The best thing to do is subscribe in small amounts and do the content you like. The game is in sunset mode, with jobs taking multiple expansions to change and content being dripped out slower and slower. Yoshi P himself said it in the LL. Play this game when you feel like it but otherwise play other games.
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    I feel like this game is slowly going on a maintenance mode as it has only 2-3 expansions left to live
    Gonna be frank...I know you put a lot of thought into what became several posts' worth of ideas, but I stopped reading after this first sentence. Attempting to use the phrase "maintenance mode" on a game that just put out a major expansion with ~60 hours of content, plus new raids, alliance raids, beast tribes, exploratory zone, etc. all either since released or coming in the next patches effectively discredits anything else you might want to say (especially when you couple it with the developers having another 10-year-plan in mind). Drop the buzzwords that have no connection to reality and just post honest thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Gonna be frank...I know you put a lot of thought into what became several posts' worth of ideas, but I stopped reading after this first sentence. Attempting to use the phrase "maintenance mode" on a game that just put out a major expansion with ~60 hours of content, plus new raids, alliance raids, beast tribes, exploratory zone, etc. all either since released or coming in the next patches effectively discredits anything else you might want to say (especially when you couple it with the developers having another 10-year-plan in mind). Drop the buzzwords that have no connection to reality and just post honest thoughts.
    This logic doesn't hold up. Just because a game is releasing content == it isn't in maintenance mode? Perhaps you would care to clarify your definition of maintenance mode. I think people use the term differently. I don't think OP is arguing the game is to the point where it doesn't receive updates, they're just saying the team likely doesn't have the resources, desire or incentive to do more than the bare minimum, which they've done for years already.

    Like you literally responded to them with the formula
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