The Formula won't change

[Gurgeh]

The problem is that they're designed as obligatory MSQ gameplay segments first and foremost, and they want the MSQ's difficulty to be tuned for the lowest common denominator. The only optional dungeon is slightly harder, and Yoshida made sure to promise that its difficulty won't be the norm.

But this wasn't always the case was it? Some of those earlier dungeon designs could be challenging. The original aurum was wonderful in it's way.
It just wasn't always like it is now.

Now if they've done it for accessibility reasons I would absolutely adore that. I would happily say if it's a choice between keeping me subbed and keeping MSQ MMO open for accessibility needs, forget about me. But if you want to keep me I'll need more than 3 dungeons every 2 years or whatever it is.
If it's not for accessibility reasons then they have severely underestimated the lowest denominator.

[Moqi]

If it's not for accessibility reasons then they have severely underestimated the lowest denominator.

Given the complaints about the difficulty of Dawntrail's dungeons and solo duties, unfortunately I doubt that's true.

[Moqi]

That's why we need more than one dungeon per patch so they can shove all the story dungeon into leveling (aka MSQ) and have proper, optional midcore content for expert roulette.

[Arlythe]

That's why we need more than one dungeon per patch so they can shove all the story dungeon into leveling (aka MSQ) and have proper, optional midcore content for expert roulette.

That's where I'd put in my envisioned savage dungeons. So you can qeue them if you like, you also have more variety and more of a challenge if that is what you seek.

[Hallarem]

I don't know what the point is to change dungeons when the itemization and stats are lacking as a system. There is no gear to chase, no stats to chase nor test variations with. Even in the glam front a lot of the new dungeon gear tends to be recolors of old gear, or some just blatantly give you only accessories.

Tomestone cap, woooo? Thats the only thing we're chasing really.

[Fatch38]

I don't know what the point is to change dungeons when the itemization and stats are lacking as a system. There is no gear to chase, no stats to chase nor test variations with. Even in the glam front a lot of the new dungeon gear tends to be recolors of old gear, or some just blatantly give you only accessories.

Tomestone cap, woooo? Thats the only thing we're chasing really.

you sir take my thumb. everytime i bring that point you've got a bunch of white knights coming to defend that lazy gamedesign. so take care they'll come with their forks.

[Moqi]

Tomestone cap, woooo? Thats the only thing we're chasing really.

I mean, yes. Which is why they need to be as streamlined as possible while still having more interesting fight and mobs than now, but very much keep the straight hallway into boss arena design.

More original glamour wouldn't hurt either.

[Hallarem]

I'll die on this hill.
Sharlayan is where the world building died / will die.

Why bother adventuring, finding out information, talking to locals, talking to people, when:

Sharlayan has all the top tech in the world
Sharlayan has a LISTENING POST INTO THE AFTERLIFE
Sharlayan can invent any mcguffin the writer wants it to invent (Example, teleporter that doesnt need aether manipulation, because Thancred couldn't teleport, CONVENIENT)
Sharlayan has a scholar for every possible thing you can think of
Sharlayan can send gleaners to get anything in the world
Sharlayan HAS EXPOSITION FOR DAYS FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING or someone wrote a book on something
Sharlayan built a spaceship, to get into outer space and are planning on using it for further planetary exploration. Yes, that is a sentence

Dude, why bother with any notion of discovery, let alone any fantasy aspect in the worldbuilding anymore when these nerds got us covered in every front.

[Valence]

I'll die on this hill.
Sharlayan is where the world building died / will die.

Why bother adventuring, finding out information, talking to locals, talking to people, when:

Sharlayan has all the top tech in the world
Sharlayan has a LISTENING POST INTO THE AFTERLIFE
Sharlayan can invent any mcguffin the writer wants it to invent (Example, teleporter that doesnt need aether manipulation, because Thancred couldn't teleport, CONVENIENT)
Sharlayan has a scholar for every possible thing you can think of
Sharlayan can send gleaners to get anything in the world
Sharlayan HAS EXPOSITION FOR DAYS FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING or someone wrote a book on something
Sharlayan built a spaceship, to get into outer space and are planning on using it for further planetary exploration. Yes, that is a sentence

Dude, why bother with any notion of discovery, let alone any fantasy aspect in the worldbuilding anymore when these nerds got us covered in every front.

You need to replace Sharlayan with Cid Garlond. Didn't you follow? The guy just waltzed in and claimed ownership of the spaceship immediately.

[Supersnow845]

The game isn’t in maintenance mode. The greatest overarching problem with the game that ties pretty much all our criticisms about content cadence, job design, balance and thematic direction of the MSQ is that simply the devs are too slow to pivot on anything and the slow cadence that seems out of line with the feedback offered makes people tired and frustrated because content coming out that doesn’t align with what people want to paying customers that feels the same as getting no content

Think

There was a subset who complained about eureka. By that point Bozja was already locked in but due to that feedback they dumped a field content in EW. However when people early on in EW realised a lack of field content was boring EW was already doomed and field content’s replacement (IS) couldn’t pivot fast enough and we basically just got 4 more updates to the same boring content nobody liked because they couldn’t change it

Everyone hates wuk lamat but she will be there in 7.1 7.2 and likely 7.3 because they can’t pivot fast enough to dump her out of the story even though she wasn’t popular

The ShB job overhaul was delayed feedback to the fiasco in HW even though most people who played all expansions would likely say the jobs balance was best in SB. Now it’s going to take to 8.0 to fix the fact that people got tired of EW doubling down on ShB design and in the meantime we got DT as a stopgap that makes the problems worse


Every single one of this games problems can be traced back to square responding (or overresponding) to feedback but taking far too long to do it and holding on to a path longer than the playerbase wants them to. People were tired of ShB job design by early EW it shouldn’t take till 8.0 to overhaul it. They need to work faster because while the game isn’t in maintenance mode getting a very slow stream of content that relates to feedback people offered two expansions ago certainly makes it feel that way