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  1. #51
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    Irvy Ryath
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    I'll probably get butchered by purists but I would love an easy mode version of ultimate fight (thematically the fights are nice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    I'll probably get butchered by purists but I would love an easy mode version of ultimate fight (thematically the fights are nice).
    No, I'd want that as well. Not everyone is looking to push themselves to the limit, and if I am, I'm going to play a Fromsoft game long before I'm going to look for it in a JRPGMMO.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    I'll probably get butchered by purists but I would love an easy mode version of ultimate fight (thematically the fights are nice).
    People are going to say that the easy mode is the raid story but I get what you're saying. There's really no casual or easy version of that type of fight where it's a multi stage, multi boss fight. The Eden Garuda fight is about it for fights where multiple bosses jump in and out of the arena as you progress. They really haven't explored that at all on the casual side as a mechanic.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 11-03-2024 at 01:16 AM.

  4. #54
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    I mean, we could satisfy everyone if the 4 billion dollar parent company reinvested back into its most profitable venture. MMOs make up 68% of square's profits, and XIV is their biggest MMO by far. Its devteam should be churning out content monthly at worst, with enough competent staff to put out high end stuff for raiders and fun replayable stuff for everyone else. There's no excuse for it being this bad.

    On a side note, think about who this game is really for. The answer is a bit hollow. Hardcore players get, what, 4-5 satisfying fights a year? And while those fights are out, once the prog is done, they just log in one day a week to reclear it. That is it. That's what they get. So I see a lot of them saying "XIV is a casual game" for this reason. But while the raiders are progging and laughing it up in VOIP, what are the casuals doing? Expert roulette? Crafting for a tumbling market? There's nothing for them either. And so you'll see midcore/casual players going "well, at least the msq andys are happy," except even those guys hated dawntrail and are dismayed at seeing more wuk lamat in the future. At this point, I seriously think the only ones 100% happy with the game are the Second Life modders who erp in their FC house all day.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 11-03-2024 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    People are going to say that the easy mode is the raid story but I get what you're saying. There's really no casual or easy version of that type of fight where it's a multi stage, multi boss fight. The Eden Garuda fight is about it for fights where multiple bosses jump in and out of the arena as you progress. They really haven't explored that at all on the casual side as a mechanic.
    Because, what's the point? The general player population already has trouble with the 1 or 2 gimmicks that bosses have in normal raids (see the regular wipes in Eden raids, and certain Alexander fights, with knowledge about Pandaemonium fights also diminishing). The whole point of these fights are the difficult mechanics. So what do you want these "story mode" fights to be? Boss will do their mechanic, but people have godmode and don't really need to do anything? Which of course means that there will be no rewards. At which point just go and watch a clear on your favorite video web page.
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  6. #56
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    Angra Mainyu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    I mean, we could satisfy everyone if the 4 billion dollar parent company reinvested back into its most profitable venture. MMOs make up 68% of square's profits, and XIV is their biggest MMO by far. Its devteam should be churning out content monthly at worst, with enough competent staff to put out high end stuff for raiders and fun replayable stuff for everyone else. There's no excuse for it being this bad.

    On a side note, think about who this game is really for. The answer is a bit hollow. Hardcore players get, what, 4-5 satisfying fights a year? And while those fights are out, once the prog is done, they just log in one day a week to reclear it. That is it. That's what they get. So I see a lot of them saying "XIV is a casual game" for this reason. But while the raiders are progging and laughing it up in VOIP, what are the casuals doing? Expert roulette? Crafting for a tumbling market? There's nothing for them either. And so you'll see midcore/casual players going "well, at least the msq andys are happy," except even those guys hated dawntrail and are dismayed at seeing more wuk lamat in the future. At this point, I seriously think the only ones 100% happy with the game are the Second Life modders who erp in their FC house all day.
    100% this. And these people will vehemently defend the game with vitriol if you dare spreak otherwise. This community has devolved into some weird sex cult. I think I'll see myself out. Actually kinda embarrassed to be associated with it.
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  7. #57
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    Kinda Hungry
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    There could be a few things going on with XIVs budget. Maybe it isn't budgeted appropriately. Maybe it is, but their production process is just too inefficient. Maybe it is, but they're using the budget on things that don't satisfy a broad range of players consistently enough.

    Or worst case, all 3. It's underfunded, development is horribly inefficient, and the team has no idea how to keep as many players as possible satisfied consistently, instead opting for appealing to extreme ends of the base in a drip feed fashion.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 11-03-2024 at 02:39 AM.

  8. #58
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    I hate the ilvl crap I would've rather it just stayed at 50 people would've still played savage for title, challenge, exclusive mounts, minions, glams etc. Then you would just get new areas, recipes, 50 dungeons each expansion. They could've even thrown in new lower level dungeons to spice it up too. Instead we have coin toss dungeon.
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  9. #59
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    If they stop making these type of content they kill the game. Ask them to make more content not less, guh.
    Well they litterally give a damn about it when ONLY showing off extreme end content with them patches... maybe they have fired too much staff to do a proper job, of course there should be more stuff but it should be more like a 75-85% ratio for content and never ending content for all and the remaining 15-20% extreme end.. meaning if you would get quite a bunch of things to do if you continue in the current route.
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Too bad, unsubbed if you dont like it. That what I did on Endwalker. Plus you get a new eureka. Thats already better than what EW give us.
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