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  1. #1
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    Avatar von TinyTimTimmayy
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    Nov 2024
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    Tiny Timtimmayy
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100

    Housing: Outdoor Furnishings limit is too small

    I know there has to be a limit in outdoor housing because the area has to load as a whole, but some house styles come with very little adornment (oasis). I started decorating the outside of my house and was very surprised at the low limit of items...I'm just putting in a stone walkway (7 items when it should really just be 1 or 2) and gravel (15 items instead of just 1) and a pond with some trees and path lights...and got about 1/3 of the way done and had to stop.

    I'm not asking for a wild limit increase for outdoor furnishings, but doubling it would be a start. And making some changes to certain items would be nice, like stepping stones being more than 2-3 stones when you need 14 stones to go from the gate to the front door and the side yard of the house. It eats up 7 items of the 20 limit just to make a simple walking path this way. Or allowing for different base layers without takin away from the item count (grass, gravel or different sizes, etc), I had to completely scrap the idea that I would be able to put any gravel down since it would take all 20 item slots to partially cover the plot in gravel.
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  2. #2
    Player
    Avatar von Kuroka
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    Aug 2016
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Tänzer Lv 60
    Yeah if you cant raise the limits, give us some larger/longer ones. id love some more stone paths but not gonna waste 8-9 slots on em...
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  3. #3
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    Avatar von Espon
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    N'kilah Razhi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Maybe increase the limit but make items take up multiple slots based on how big it is. Why can I stick 30 large decks in my yard or only 30 tiny pinwheels?

    Could bump the item limit to 75 for a medium house and make the deck take up 5 slots while a pinwheel or rock would only take up 1.
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  4. #4
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    Avatar von Khryseis_Astra
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    Dec 2019
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    Khryseis Astra
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Schwarzmagier Lv 100
    While they’re supposed to be raising item limits in 7.2 or 7.3, it hasn’t been confirmed whether that will be indoor and outdoor, or just indoor.

    No matter what it ends up being indoors, I doubt we’ll see as much of a raise for outdoor. The insides are instanced, the outsides are permanently loaded, and having too many yard items could be a big server drain. It’s also why they can give us more interior customization.
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  5. #5
    Player
    Avatar von Kuroka
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    Aug 2016
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Tänzer Lv 60
    Again thats why we ask for at least larger stuff... if i can place 30 trees i think some large stone path is not asked too much...

    Or... id love if we could change/customize our grass and stuff...
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  6. #6
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    Avatar von Khryseis_Astra
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    Dec 2019
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Schwarzmagier Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Kuroka Beitrag anzeigen
    Or... id love if we could change/customize our grass and stuff...
    They were able to do it for the Island… all it would really take is making the ground outside like the floors inside, with different outside “flooring” items.

    I’ve always wished I could change it out for the different seasons, so it would look like the whole yard was covered in snow for winter, for instance.
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  7. #7
    Player
    Avatar von Khryseis_Astra
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    Dec 2019
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Schwarzmagier Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Espon Beitrag anzeigen
    Could bump the item limit to 75 for a medium house and make the deck take up 5 slots while a pinwheel or rock would only take up 1.
    Or maybe do it like the aquariums… items could be put into size categories, so you could place so many small, medium or large items…

    But again, I’m not sure if the server drain is based on the size of the items, or the total amount of things it would have to keep permanently rendered, so I could see that being used as an excuse.
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  8. #8
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    Avatar von Rinoa_353
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    Feb 2016
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    Shirogane - Minaa/Lavender Beds - Rinoa
    Beiträge
    422
    Character
    Minaa Mihgo
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Tänzer Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Khryseis_Astra Beitrag anzeigen
    Or maybe do it like the aquariums… items could be put into size categories, so you could place so many small, medium or large items…

    But again, I’m not sure if the server drain is based on the size of the items, or the total amount of things it would have to keep permanently rendered, so I could see that being used as an excuse.
    Maybe that's true for now but once PS4 support is dropped in 8.0, this may be possible since the current generation consoles would be able to handle the additional rendered objects and more. The PS4 is 11 years old and it was budget range PC equivalent when it first came out too, so it's very outdated and holding the game back. This may be why the interior housing size expansion may be pushed to 8.0 since they haven't given a release schedule for it unlike the furnishing limit expansion coming in 7.2 or 7.3.
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    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

    Mihgo Manor - Minaa's personal mansion located in Seraph Shiro W14 P60

  9. #9
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    Avatar von Khryseis_Astra
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Schwarzmagier Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Rinoa_353 Beitrag anzeigen
    Maybe that's true for now but once PS4 support is dropped in 8.0, this may be possible since the current generation consoles would be able to handle the additional rendered objects and more. The PS4 is 11 years old and it was budget range PC equivalent when it first came out too, so it's very outdated and holding the game back. This may be why the interior housing size expansion may be pushed to 8.0 since they haven't given a release schedule for it unlike the furnishing limit expansion coming in 7.2 or 7.3.
    I didn’t know they were going to be dropping PS4 support, but I don’t think that’s a good reason to push the interior size to 8.0 in any case. If they do, I think it would be more of a matter of them not being able to get it done any faster than that, not a technical limitation. All they’re really doing with that is changing what size of instance you’re loading into. So if PS4 players can walk into a large house now, no reason they can’t walk into a small house that’s large inside, regardless of item limits.

    The item limit increases are coming in 7.2/7.3 so the number of objects will have to be acceptable for PS4 since it’s still supported. I don’t see them pushing that any further, especially when the most positive feedback they get tends to come from the housing crowd when they announce something we’ve wanted for years! lol
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  10. #10
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    Avatar von NightHour
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    Oct 2021
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    Night Hour
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Tänzer Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Khryseis_Astra Beitrag anzeigen
    While they’re supposed to be raising item limits in 7.2 or 7.3, it hasn’t been confirmed whether that will be indoor and outdoor, or just indoor.

    No matter what it ends up being indoors, I doubt we’ll see as much of a raise for outdoor. The insides are instanced, the outsides are permanently loaded, and having too many yard items could be a big server drain. It’s also why they can give us more interior customization.

    This plus there's still people playing on PS4 and older PC's and Laptops.


    Not every player has $1,500+ PC/Laptop.


    Zitat Zitat von Rinoa_353 Beitrag anzeigen
    Maybe that's true for now but once PS4 support is dropped in 8.0, this may be possible since the current generation consoles would be able to handle the additional rendered objects and more. The PS4 is 11 years old and it was budget range PC equivalent when it first came out too, so it's very outdated and holding the game back. This may be why the interior housing size expansion may be pushed to 8.0 since they haven't given a release schedule for it unlike the furnishing limit expansion coming in 7.2 or 7.3.


    PS4 support will definitely need to be dropped yes.



    And yes, the PS4 is equivalent to an AMD FX 6300 CPU and a GeForce GTX 750 Ti both of which were very low end parts even when they were current 12 + years ago.


    If we compare that to a PS5 which has hardware equivalent to the Ryzen 7 3700x and the Radeon RX 5700XT / Geforce RTX 2070 super. The CPU is like 4.5x faster and the GPU is like 5.4x faster.


    In 2024, the 3700x, 5700XT and 2070 Super are budget level parts but were mid-range when they were current generation.

    Actually the 5700 XT was a flagship part as AMD didn't target high end during that generation.
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    Geändert von NightHour (06.11.24 um 19:53 Uhr)

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