A reminder to everyone about generational differences

[Raven2014]

I thought people not knowing how to read analog clocks was a joke


is NA education really this cooked?

I am an Asian who finished K12 at my native country before migrate to the US. It's a combination of a lot of factor:

- Curriculum: if I'm of a conspiracy mind, I would suggest common course math is not designed to lay foundation, but designed to shatter student's confidence in math because they're so convoluted they have to be on purpose. This is not a hyperbolic, but even if you had learnt Calculus from another country, you'll struggle to make sense of elementary text book over here. And what if I'm not of a conspiracy mind? The most generous assessment would be the curriculum is designed to satisfy the adult ego, rather than to teach kids.

- Social pressure: in Asia the reason why school tend to be more successful is because the attitude they take toward educators in general. They still get shit pay for the most part, but at least they get respect, mine actually put educator a rank above parents. People also understand the saying "it takes a village to raise a kids", so there tend to be a united effort to make sure kids can learn. This means holding the teachers responsible, but also the parents as well. In America, educator received shit pay, has no respect, but have to shoulder 100% of the responsibility while being neutered to the point of having no power over the kids. This lead to a situation that not a lot of people want to go into this career, leading to a permanent shortage of instructors, and the one you do get tend to be the bottom of the barrel.

- Politic: education basically have become a free for all of ideology politic. The left will blame the right for budget cut and religious influence, the right will point at the infiltration of activism poisoning ... and the scariest part is? They're both right. I mentioned "bottom of the barrel" earlier, what his mean specifically is: if you're lucky, you get people who became educator as their plan C due to them either lacking talent or couldn't compete in the field or in the industry. If you are unlucky ... you get activist ... not educators. Take science and biology education for example, from the right, you'll have "educator" who want to blaster religious overtone on it, from the left, you'll have educators who prefer to teach gender identity over actual biological difference. Basically, a lot of conversation about education in the US has nothing to do with education, but more about ideology politic with both side vying to shape the younger minds to their liking.


So no, I woundn't say NA's education in the US cooked, more like being burnt to a crisp.

[Vizi]

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[Fawkes]

The Webcomic XKCD makes the point that given the birth rate of the United States, for each thing that "everyone knows" when they are adults, every day there are 10000 people who hear it for the first time.
There's an XKCD for everything.


So let's not mock people who do not know things, even common things, if they are willing to learn. They're one of today's lucky ten thousand, because one can only experience the wonders of learning something for the first time once.

I think most of the pushback in this thread is that the example was presented as a generational issue. It's not just that they didn't know something, but that they claimed it's normal for young people to not know that thing.

If the example hadn't been clockwise but instead was something like "We were doing Ozma and I said we're doing the JFK strat and then we wiped because the zoomer didn't know that meant to take the meteors 'back and to the left'" then sure you could blame that on generational knowledge.

[lolnotacat]

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Asian mode Construct 7

[Shibi]

Other than clockwise, he could have used starboard and port/leeward.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

Other than clockwise, he could have used starboard and port/leeward.

Aye, throw that bowline over starboard

[Iscah]

Other than clockwise, he could have used starboard and port/leeward.

I don't see how those are interchangeable. Port and starboard are for defining fixed positions relative to the direction the thing is facing; clockwise defines the direction of movement around it.

[PercibelTheren]

Hi, baby millennial here. We literally got taught analog clocks at school. They are still all over the place, even though digital clocks prevail over them. It's not a difficult concept to explain or understand. It's no worse for a newbie raider as all the other terminology - I know I was confused as hell about "limit cut" in P2S because that's not what the mechanic is called in that fight. But you know what happened? I asked and it was explained to me. And that's the end of that problem. You're overthinking it.

[PercibelTheren]

Other than clockwise, he could have used starboard and port/leeward.

Because a person who doesn't know the analog clocks knows the sides of a ship, right?

[AnimaAnimus]

I thought people not knowing how to read analog clocks was a joke


is NA education really this cooked?

It's the "no child left behind" policy that messed the system up big time at least in the beginning. Teachers are not allowed to fail or hold back kids now, so kids are going all the way to high school without knowing the basics of anything because they don't need to. Combine that with parents who simply give their kids something with a screen and call it parenting, or are so heavily involved and themselves brainwashed by the storm of pseudoscience and misinformation that is flooding social media, dictating to the teachers what they feel should and should not be taught and taking things all the way to the school boards, which have ppl like the "moms for liberty" and other ultra conservative groups trying to infultrate them and yeah...we are not in a good place.

Keep the population uninformed and uneducated and you have an easy to control and manipulate masses that will keep them in power. Anti-intellectualism is no joke.