Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
On the same breath though, do you understand where I'm coming from when I say I find way more fun to use Aetherflow and Recitation over the entire Eukrasia mechanic? Same thing with my Mudras when compared to the Monk Chakras, which clearly are different enough to have some people here have the entire opposite opinion around NIN/MNK that I have.

I guess I wanna follow up with this question: Do you think all jobs suffer the same from the issue you described above? Or do you think some would be fine for you with just a handful of tweaks or more content that was tailor made to use their kits? Or do you really think all of them are a lost cause?

And no, I don't think you're delusional. Turning my BS snark all the way off for this thread.
I will say that some roles (not jobs, roles) are better with uniqueness than others. Tank is abysmal in this regard--I don't think I could be convinced that they don't all play the same in their current state. Melee is next--could definitely be worse, but they all have 123 (with variation) combos, a DoT, and a gauge to fill for a capstone. Healers are next--like I said you can't really set a healer's rotation in stone, but there is little-to-no variation of their core kits (other than whether they give regen or a shield). rDPS comes after--unique within their role, and their utility sets them apart, but they all have some overlap with other jobs. Casters are last--they're all pretty unique, and honestly I don't have much of a problem with them.

I may have over-exaggerated a bit in the other thread when I said "kill ALL jobs", but I feel like something like that would need to be done if we are to distance ourselves from the 2-minute-meta downward spiral the devs seem to be caught in.

If they could incorporate the 2MM buffs in a smarter way, then I think DoM DPS would be in a good spot.
If they could give healers more of a varied core kit other than 'single target heal, single target heal with pizzazz, AOE heal, AOE heal with pizzazz', then I think healers would be in... well, a better spot.
If they could take a page out of Bard's book and give the other DoW rDPS something other than 123 combos (NOT SAYING TO COPY BARD), then I think rDPS would be in a good spot.

But melee and tank? Yeah, tear them down, gut them, reshape them in someone else's design philosophy.

Also,

Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
I find way more fun to use Aetherflow and Recitation over the entire Eukrasia mechanic?
Agreed. I love Scholar. Hate Sage. Simple as.