7.1 - More Wuk Lamat

[Barachim]

It's not just a few people. There were also polls where Wuk was among the least-liked characters even in Japan. It's failed writing all around.

If you think the above you haven't been paying attention. Which is fine - but it's wrong to draw conclusions it's just a few people here.

Definitely not a good look when a character is being put front and center in a new expansion and the character can't even break into the Top 10 of the Japanese fan poll. I think even Wuk Evu took a Top 10 spot.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Definitely not a good look when a character is being put front and center in a new expansion and the character can't even break into he Top 10 of the Japanese fan poll. I think even Wuk Evu took a Top 10 spot.

It's pretty embarrassing. They really thought making her the lead, and by an overwhelming amount of screen time compared to everyone else, was going to result in her having way more fans than she actually does. They wrote her to have a very strong personality, it's just it's strong in ways most people find off-putting. Really missed the mark.

In 7.1 she seems to have lost a lot of that personality and she's becoming more of a flat character. I can't tell if that's really a win or not.

[TheRealQuah]

Yep, as soon as I saw that I realized they listened to absolutely none of the fedback from 7.0 and are just going to steamroll ahead to try to push that mary sue even more. Should be used to it since almost every large item the community has been asking for needs to be screamed from the rooftops for 6+ years straight before Yoshida even thinks about looking into how feasible it is to put into the game.

We're really talking to a wall when we give feedback on here it seems. It's even more wild when you look at live service games like Mihoyo's offerings and see that they can on a dime transition their story, mission structure, and character types they're making to meet feedback. All we get is silence and excuses at the live letter every 6 months.

Endwalker was delayed for a script rewrite so we know they absolutely can make changes so close to release, but only on their terms when they want to. What the community wants? Ehhhh maybe in a few years if they feel like it.

Yoshi-P in his last live letter said that he had just approved the trailer concept for 8.0. The 7.x series is all planned out and if you think anything is going to change between now and 8.0 then you are kidding yourself. Also saying they have listened to none of the feedback is just disingenuous because they have changed job design and numbers based on what people wanted. The fact is that the 7.x content has been in production for probably over a year already so they can't just change it on a whim.

Bringing up Mihoyo as an example shows an incredible lack of knowledge of how anything works. The biggest company in the world, making the most expensive and highest grossing game ever which is designed around a 6 week patch cycle, is nothing like XIV at all. It's much easier to change content when the patch cycle is so short and they have an infinite amount of money to throw at it.

[chizLemons]

Yoshi-P in his last live letter said that he had just approved the trailer concept for 8.0. The 7.x series is all planned out and if you think anything is going to change between now and 8.0 then you are kidding yourself. Also saying they have listened to none of the feedback is just disingenuous because they have changed job design and numbers based on what people wanted. The fact is that the 7.x content has been in production for probably over a year already so they can't just change it on a whim.

Bringing up Mihoyo as an example shows an incredible lack of knowledge of how anything works. The biggest company in the world, making the most expensive and highest grossing game ever which is designed around a 6 week patch cycle, is nothing like XIV at all. It's much easier to change content when the patch cycle is so short and they have an infinite amount of money to throw at it.

I don't recall anyone ever asking for less Nastrond, but here we are.
I really want to believe they are listening to feedback. I really, really do. I always admired the XIV team for valuing player feedback.
But I honestly can't say that I'm feeling we are being heard recently. I'm still hoping to be proven wrong every single patch, but things don't really look good as of now.

A lot of the job changes go against what the loud majority's been asking for (jobs are being more and more homogenized and simplified). They did seem to take ask for and notice of a lot of graphical update changes request, yet a lot of times they went against what people wanted. Everyone complained about writing quality and Wuk Lamat's characterization and constant presence, and YoshiP answered in an interview that people didn't like her "because she lacked confidence". Many of his answers and comments regarding feedback about the MSQ sounded out of touch as well, like he didn't go through the story's final version, only the initial concepts of it, and didn't try to understand the player's feedback. Which I'm sure he wouldn't want or even be able to go in depth about the issues they had or anything like that, but I don't recall in the past his answers being so off base.

It's true that they don't have Mihoyo's budget and team...but Square Enix isn't a small indie company, either. They SHOULD have more budget to invest in XIV, but what it feels like right now, is that the money we spend and invest on this game that we love, isn't coming back to it. Not only that, but since Endwalker, they're taking away people from the game's team to work on other SE games that we most likely don't care about, and that IS affecting this game's quality. YoshiP tried to reassure us that XVI wouldn't take his attention away from 14, but yes, yes it did, and it was very noticeable.

I really hope I'm just wrong and frustrated, but I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling this way right now.

[TBerry]

TBH that makes me curious what Wuk lamat's German Voice is like.

I changed the client to English you see, because I couldn't stand how they wrote the German dialogue. That could've just as well be Berlin in 2040.

[EDIT]
Yeah no, trust me, her English Voice is not even half as terrible and obnoxious despite the fake accent.
Koana's voice is nice, though.

[AnimaAnimus]

TBH that makes me curious what Wuk lamat's German Voice is like.

I changed the client to English you see, because I couldn't stand how they wrote the German dialogue. That could've just as well be Berlin in 2040.

[EDIT]
Yeah no, trust me, her English Voice is not even half as terrible and obnoxious despite the fake accent.
Koana's voice is nice, though.

lol As someone who grew up in a part of the states that still speaks a lot of German, I actually changed it to German and thought it was leaps and bounds better than English. Everyone said go to Japanese, but that high pitched thing a lot of Japanese women do is like nails on chalkboard to me, which is why I always watched dubbed anime too. No idea how ppl hear that and think, "Oh yeah that is great, I want more of that!"

[Fivefold]

Anyone trying to downplay how offensive Wuk's accent in the english VA sounds, seriously needs to reconsider if borderline racism is okay for them.

How are you going to say it's offensive when that's the VA's accent? You're so busy trying to tell people to be offended that you haven't taken a minute to gather some facts about the artist. It's not a made-up accent. Maybe you need to reconsider who's being racist.

[Fivefold]

It's not just a few people. There were also polls where Wuk was among the least-liked characters even in Japan. It's failed writing all around.

If you think the above you haven't been paying attention. Which is fine - but it's wrong to draw conclusions it's just a few people here.

There are literally millions of players in this game. I don't think 300 people in a forum and an internet poll count as a majority. Loud voices don't mean "most of the people."

[AnimaAnimus]

There are literally millions of players in this game.

Are there though? SE won't release actual numbers only their promotional numbers which are far from accurate for the total currently subbed population and the estimates ppl gather from achievements and what not beg to differ. Just because you want something to be true, doesn't make it true.

[Daralii]

Definitely not a good look when a character is being put front and center in a new expansion and the character can't even break into the Top 10 of the Japanese fan poll. I think even Wuk Evu took a Top 10 spot.

The Chinese community did a most liked/disliked poll with ~10k participants, and Wuk won most disliked with over 70% of the vote. I think Sphene and Zoraal Ja took second and third.