7.1 - More Wuk Lamat

[ZephyrMenodora]

Keep your expectations realistic. As much as I disliked the Wuk Lamat centric writing in 7.0, and even if every single player in FF14 hated Wuk Lamat, I would assume they can implement changes at 7.3 the earliest, really. Square's development cycle is too long.

Yes I guess I really don't understand their dev cycle and what the extra 1 to 2 months per patch is for. In my mind the MSQ in a .X patch is like, an hour worth of writing? I am not sure why it can't be rewritten in 4 to 5 months. Even if the re-write was just having another character stand in for Wuk.

[Hanayumi]

REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS! Theyre likely several patches ahead with development, theres no way in hell theyll change out the story this early, on even with the massive blacklash. REALISTICALLY, weve got Wuk Lamat and this story till the end of the expansion, then theyll drop her and it all with a new arc and act like none if it happen, except maybe the thingamajig...

[Sifpatata]

skip all
game: "u sure"
me: "fucking yes"

[ovIm]

Yes I guess I really don't understand their dev cycle and what the extra 1 to 2 months per patch is for. In my mind the MSQ in a .X patch is like, an hour worth of writing? I am not sure why it can't be rewritten in 4 to 5 months. Even if the re-write was just having another character stand in for Wuk.

Consider this - a patch we play has most likely been in development for at least since the release of the last patch, if not longer. Lots of feedback gathered in $current_patch would not be implementable in $next_patch, unless it is really small adjustments (say, potency numbers).

[Reimmi]

I hereby vow to skip every cutscene that she's in
i ain't doing 7.0 again

[Jeeqbit]

They always do a cleanup in the patches.

• Heavensward saw us install a leadership structure in Ishgard and add them to the grand company alliance
• Stormblood saw us install a leadership structure in Ala Mhigo and Doma
• Shadowbringers saw us install a leadership structure in Eulmore and phase out the Crystal Exarch
• Endwalker saw us install a leadership structure in Garlemald and cleanup the issues in Radz
• Dawntrail will see us install a leadership structure in Solution Nine and cleanup any other messes we made.

Endwalker was delayed for a script rewrite

Hardly. They delayed it mostly due to covid because the companies they outsourced to couldn't provide the assets on time due to not working. They delayed it by a further 2 weeks because Yoshi-P wanted to add Emet-Selch's lines about the twelve and the new world, because he felt the story ended too depressingly without that glimmer of hope for the future of the game after the arc was complete.

We're getting pretty minimal content for 7.1

Blue Mage additions, a Chaos Raid, an alliance raid, an extreme trial, an ultimate raid, a new dungeon, a custom delivery, a quest for doing all role quests, hildibrand, probably a beast tribe(?) and more MSQ.

If that's minimal to you then maybe it's just that not much content interests you in this game.

I say that they should have foreseen this possible reaction when people didn't like Wuk Lamat and gave feedback back in 6.55

They tend to spend a lot of time coming up with the story (X.0 to X.3 patch) then start developing it after the X.3 patch. So by the time of 6.55 they'd already made most of it...

This current situation was completely predictable and should have been course corrected for 7.1.

I remember right before Shadowbringers released, they said "5.1 is ready". But they still kept the 3.5 month delay on it because they use that time to thoroughly test it and iron out bugs.

[VerdeLuck]

They always do a cleanup in the patches.

• Heavensward saw us instill a leadership structure in Ishgard and add them to the grand company alliance
• Stormblood saw us instill a leadership structure in Ala Mhigo and Doma
• Shadowbringers saw us instill a leadership structure in Eulmore and phase out the Crystal Exarch
• Endwalker saw us instill a leadership structure in Garlemald and cleanup the issues in Radz
• Dawntrail will see us instill a leadership structure in Solution Nine and cleanup any other messes we made.

Hardly. They delayed it mostly due to covid because the companies they outsourced to couldn't provide the assets on time due to not working. They delayed it by a further 2 weeks because Yoshi-P wanted to add Emet-Selch's lines about the twelve and the new world, because he felt the story ended too depressingly without that glimmer of hope for the future of the game after the arc was complete.
Blue Mage additions, a Chaos Raid, an alliance raid, an extreme trial, an ultimate raid, a new dungeon, a custom delivery, a quest for doing all role quests, hildibrand, probably a beast tribe(?) and more MSQ.

If that's minimal to you then maybe it's just that not much content interests you in this game.
They tend to spend a lot of time coming up with the story (X.0 to X.3 patch) then start developing it after the X.3 patch. So by the time of 6.55 they'd already made most of it...
I remember right before Shadowbringers released, they said "5.1 is ready". But they still kept the 3.5 month delay on it because they use that time to thoroughly test it and iron out bugs.

The endwalker delay was literally said by Yoshida to be because he wanted to rewrite the Emet and Hythlodaeus scene in Ultima Thule. Covid was not a part of that delay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...alkers_2_week/

so they absolutely can make changes even at the last minute, and they can get those script changes voiced and animated when they want to.

Also lets be clear, the 7.1 content is weak, it's a bunch of raid content and then a single dungeon and an hour of MSQ content. If you don't raid and aren't an ff11 fanboy, there is nothing new to do in 7.1.

[ZephyrMenodora]

The endwalker delay was literally said by Yoshida to be because he wanted to rewrite the Emet and Hythlodaeus scene in Ultima Thule. Covid was not a part of that delay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...alkers_2_week/

so they absolutely can make changes even at the last minute, and they can get those script changes voiced and animated when they want to.

Also lets be clear, the 7.1 content is weak, it's a bunch of raid content and then a single dungeon and an hour of MSQ content. If you don't raid and aren't an ff11 fanboy, there is nothing new to do in 7.1.

I wish they just put in a grind for a relic weapon earlier. The raid is a once a week thing and the dungeon will be on farm for dailies in a week - so I feel like I'll have little to do in the game that is meaningful.

[Larirawiel]

I figured, but considering the writing for a patch MSQ is like a total of 1 hour of content, and they now take 4 to 5 months per patch, I hoped they could have course corrected just a tad.

It seems, that SQEX is not very flexible when it comes to change things.

But they named the main scenario "Crossroads". Maybe finally the players will find Mankrik's Wife.



Cheers

[AnimaAnimus]

The endwalker delay was literally said by Yoshida to be because he wanted to rewrite the Emet and Hythlodaeus scene in Ultima Thule. Covid was not a part of that delay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...alkers_2_week/

so they absolutely can make changes even at the last minute, and they can get those script changes voiced and animated when they want to.

Also lets be clear, the 7.1 content is weak, it's a bunch of raid content and then a single dungeon and an hour of MSQ content. If you don't raid and aren't an ff11 fanboy, there is nothing new to do in 7.1.

You arguement is pointless, not because it's not valid, but because you are arguing with FFXIV's most stalwart white knight. Literally a waste of time.