7.1 - More Wuk Lamat

[chip793]

They already paid for the VA work, now they have to shove it down our throats for three excruciating patch cycles at minimum. Mmm... Slop. Thanks Yoshida.

[Daralii]

Sorry but you could say the same of Endwalker and every expansion that came before it. I personally hated all of Endwalker zones, except maybe Ultima Thule, and I liked Ultima Thule because it had the weight of 10 years of storytelling behind it.

But so what? All this proves is you didn't like it, the opinion is fine and valid, but it's still everything they advertised, FFXIV hasn't changed so much to go from a "Steak to a soup", quite the contrary in fact , it's biggest weakness right now it's that it refuses to change at all.

Endwalker's zones were bad too, even if there were glimmers of competence in scenes like Quintus's suicide. That doesn't make Dawntrail's zones good.

[Garruss]

Me pressing that skip cut scene button when she appears

[All_Nonsense]

But so what? All this proves is you didn't like it, the opinion is fine and valid, but it's still everything they advertised, FFXIV hasn't changed so much to go from a "Steak to a soup", quite the contrary in fact , it's biggest weakness right now it's that it refuses to change at all.

I think you're missing the central point. For one, you're trying to say that a dining experience - something someone can experience 3 or more times in a day is equivalent to receiving major story content in a game that extended its update cycle to be about 2.5 years long. That is factually incorrect. A "bad steak" isn't going to sink a restaurant in a night - try serving it for 3 years and lemme know how that P&L is looking.

It doesn't matter if "everything is as advertised" because no one is compelled to continue financially supporting SE by paying their sub. So literally anything that would cause a large enough portion of players to stop paying their subs is a legitimate concern and needs to be addressed - regardless of whether one would objectively call it "fair" or justify it in any other way. Watch the Dawntrail trailer and tell me if that's what we got, because half of it is the final cutscene in the story lmfao. Simply put, if the money doesn't go in, the game dies. This is where the largest disconnect occurs: People are not complaining and ranting on the forums because they hate the game and "want their steak," necessarily, they are scared that the game they love has entered a state of decline and they don't want anything bad to happen to it.

Finally, "most people liked it" isn't good enough. "most people" is over a 50% positive rating statistically speaking - which is objectively considered bad in terms of media reviews. This is a subscription service, you gotta make something that people wanna keep playing because operating costs are expensive. FF14 Dawntrail is currently sitting at "mixed" on Steam, with only 55% positive reviews. Other websites show somewhat similar results but bear in mind you are going to want a sample size that's higher than one the hundreds. That is bad news. People are worried about the game they love, there's no need to join YoshiP in insulting them for "not getting it" when they're the ones who are paying for it to be developed (in addition to numerous SE flop titles) with their subs in the first place.

[IvoryHawk]

YOU WILL LIKE WUK LAMAO

[SessyoinKiara]

My man. Of course we're getting more of her. They're not gonna change it just because of a bunch of loud children complaining about the most inane things about her. And here's hoping we get more of her in 8.0 and beyond.

[VerdeLuck]

My man. Of course we're getting more of her. They're not gonna change it just because of a bunch of loud children complaining about the most inane things about her. And here's hoping we get more of her in 8.0 and beyond.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a child? Should we not get a say in how the game's story progresses despite paying a subscription for it?
Or is it only good to listen to feedback when it's feedback you personally like? I'd love to see some of the people saying they shouldn't change based on feedback back in 5.3 when they added Graha Tia to the scions based on player feedback. Was that a mistake to listen to "children" saying they wanted something different?

[OMGJesuis66]

Anyone who disagrees with you is a child? Shoudl we not get a say in how the game's story progresses despite paying a subscription for it?
Or is it only good to listen to feedabck when it's feedback you personally like? I'd love to see some of the peopel saying they shouldnt' change based on feedback back in 5.3 when they added Graha Tia to the scions based on player feedback. Was that a mistake to listen to "children" saying they wanted something different?

Yes. They also preach that Emet is the best written villain of every FF series, while Shadowbringers set the decline of the narrative by forcing the main cast always to be kind and understand all their sad and redeemable villains. So, yeah, no. Community has been something else over MSQ ever since ever.

[Reinha]

My man. Of course we're getting more of her. They're not gonna change it just because of a bunch of loud children complaining about the most inane things about her. And here's hoping we get more of her in 8.0 and beyond.

Hah, look at these "adult" fans doing more damage to the game than disillusioned complainers ever could. Asking the devs to stay the course that's ruining the formerly award winning (now mixed reviews) narrative, and some of them urging even more people to quit if they don't like it. Competitors won't have to lift a finger to get ahead at this point.

[EchoingPulse]

Considering how dogwater the 7.1 story was. I don't mind skipping and speed-clicking through dialogue. It's a damn shame I have to, but, ugh. I do not--will not, like Wuk Lamat unless they do some serious rewriting for the character and do something about the nails-to-chalkboard voice.

I fully expect another bucket of 'Unskippable Cutscenes' to increase the run time to a level that is acceptable to shareholders. FML