Thread: 7.1 - More Wuk Lamat

The issue I have personally is that the base story landed so poorly with me that any follow up story content we get is kinda pre-emptively ruined. I don't care about any issues or hooks introduced throughout the whole of DT. I'm sick of it all already and it just reminds me of how much of a squandered opportunity the whole thing was. The well's been poisoned.

Originally Posted by SWATomega

You know, I have seen a lot of these posts, and I do wonder why people keep bringing it up. It is that they see the character and want to stir up problems again and want people to seethe and hate again. I can see why people would hate DT MSQ, but to completely honest are you really surprised that it isn't like ShB or EW. Those expansion was the rise to the crescendo of the original story the pinnacle and concussion of the original 1.0 story.

How are you suppose to even top that in the next expansion? Are you really that surprised that the start of a new story chain starts off slow? I compared DT to ARR I toned down my expectations well before launch, I knew from the start the DT was not going to be ShB or EW.

I get why people are upset too, it is our character and our story, being in the backseat doesn't feel that great. Where a new character took front and center and we were on the sideline.

Did I like the story? It was fine, nothing to write home about, still waiting for all the post-MSQ to give a final answer. Do I like Wuk Lamat? I think she was fine but i will agree the screen time was a lot. Is DT a bad expansion? Can't say for sure till all the content is released. Is this the end of FFXIV? Not even close.

The 7.x patches are not finished and are not even finalized yet. They are still maleable and can be changed with enough feedback from the community. That's the purpose of giving feedback on these forums. To get the Dev team and Community team's attention to tell them what players want, and they can make changes to reflect that.
That's how live service games work.

We want better writing and don't want any more of Wuk Lamat taking center stage over Krile, Erenville, and our WoLs, and are willing to unsub if it doesn't improve in 7.1. This thread is to convey that. It's not that complicated.

Originally Posted by ovIm

Keep your expectations realistic. As much as I disliked the Wuk Lamat centric writing in 7.0, I would assume they can implement changes at 7.3 the earliest, really. Square's development cycle is too long.

Even if every single player in FF14 hated Wuk Lamat, Square would not have been able to course correct that quickly.

I would disagree with this assessment if Yoshi's and his team are the same people from 8-10 years ago. Or if FF14 still command the respect of a flagship tittle it used to have. Don't forget:

- 1.0 version shut down on November 2012
- 2.0 was launched in August 2013 - 11 months later.

Even if we pad in another 3-5 months to assume the 2.0 developement had begun prior to 1.0 shut down. That's still ~15month for them to create a 40-60h of content that was packed in the 2.0 launch.

So the notion of 4-5 months is too short for them to change what would be ~1h of MSQ because it's an unreasonable and impossible task ... yeah I don't buy it. Even if they only work HALF as hard as they did during the 2.0 launch cycle, changing the MSQ content of DT shouldn't be anything resemblance an impossible task.

But given the current energy and effort being invested into the game these days ... yeah, what you say would be a fair assessment. I don't think they're ignoring the feedback, but to be clear: they don't change it not because they're unable to. It's simple because they probably believe they don't need to or don't want to.

Originally Posted by Midare

There's one major difference that I'm thinking of here though.

He and whatever team he had with him back then, came in already knowing that 1.0 was a dumpster fire they had to put out. With DT, they didn't know Poochie was going to be a disaster until people who finished MSQ started sending in feedback.

You could also argue that the blemishes (Or one blemish, a massive one) in the story should have been obvious enough if they did play through it as they say they do and should have prepared accordingly, alas, if that had been the case, then we would have had a delay in DT and we didn't.

But I personally think that arguing whether or not we should or should not be getting her back in 7.1, it's rather pointless. She's gonna be there, it was mostly expected... might as well keep the feedback coming and get through it.

There were threads on here complaining since 6.5, we knew for a long time before Dawntrail there were issues. At that time people were told to wait and that DT would be better than the patch quests. In fact whenever people have issues with this game it goes in a cycle
-Just wait for the next patch, they can't do anything now, why give feedback about this when they probably already fixed this
-The patch is too soon to make any changes, what do you want them to do? Delay it? (we are here right now)
-The patch just came out give it some time to grow on you
-The x.1 isn't out yet
-The x.5 isn't even out yet wait till then before you give feedback
and then see the top.

Just a never ending cycle of people trying to shut down any negative feedback of the game by saying we just need to wait another 4 months and Yoshi-P will fix it.