It really isn't hard to fix frontlines...

[Mawlzy]

I mean, if they make it so that only the first person that hits a player does full damage to the player, and they get 95% damage reduction against everyone else, it would likely stop the constant fishing and baiting tactics and get people to actually engage.

With everyone doing near full damage there's no way for anyone to really do anything meaningful.

Given you frequently see 8 players pounding on the same invulnerable PLD, I doubt this would help.

[Anzaman]

Given you frequently see 8 players pounding on the same invulnerable PLD, I doubt this would help.

Sadly it's quite an hassle to tab-rotate through targets and hope that it lands on what you desired.

And trying to click the specific target isn't that easy either when there's 70 of them on screen.

[Gurgeh]

Sadly it's quite an hassle to tab-rotate through targets and hope that it lands on what you desired.

And trying to click the specific target isn't that easy either when there's 70 of them on screen.

YEah controller has the advantage here.
Although.... There probably is something similar you can do for mouse.
I use

• Movement Settings: 'Legacy Type'
  Auto-target according to priority - 'Line of Sight'
  Enable full auto target
  Target Closest enemies Type 2: Cone

Controller now has auto select and commit action if nothing at all targeted (surely mouse and key board has some similar)
I very rarely use tab targetting in PvP
Its line of sight-cone , select. And deselect and try again on the rare occasions I get the previous wrong.
I play didstance WHM, and PLD mele. Works for both.
My targeting is pretty impeccable. Certainly passable.

[Mawlzy]

Sadly it's quite an hassle to tab-rotate through targets and hope that it lands on what you desired.

And trying to click the specific target isn't that easy either when there's 70 of them on screen.

I'd agree targeting is clunky.

[IDontPetLalas]

I'd agree targeting is clunky.

Sadly, while we often agree, in this case - I would disagree- for a PvP game, it's atrocious. I think we're just learned how to compensate as best we can, given that we've had the benefit of prior experience, I genuinely feel bad for anyone who's never PvPed and starts with this game.

[Mawlzy]

Sadly, while we often agree, in this case - I would disagree- for a PvP game, it's atrocious. I think we're just learned how to compensate as best we can, given that we've had the benefit of prior experience, I genuinely feel bad for anyone who's never PvPed and starts with this game.

That's fair. I guess I've got so used to the various compromises and workarounds one has to employ that I've forgotten what an acceptable targeting system should look like.