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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    The point Yoshi was making is that the summons were rare because there was only one (Ifrit) in every FF world and it was exclusive to the player-controlled party.

    FFXI broke this with every Summoner walking around with their own Ifrit. (ie, there were many 'Ifrits' in FFXI) -- and even though the lore kind of explained it, the overall feeling was that the power of Ifrit was diminished by turning him into a breed of pet for people.

    Yoshi wants there to be only one Ifrit, and he wants him to be very powerful.

    Other lesser summons like Carbuncle and Cait Sith could replicate themselves and be used for a SMN job in this game, but for the big summons, there will be only one version at any given point.
    I figured out the general idea of what you were saying.

    An Ifrit Materia or Esper could be used to summon the essence or the effect of Ifrit but to summon him it is to be expected that you can only do it once at any given time. It gives primal's a life of their own when they are treated as autonomous beings and not elements.

    The Summoner should really be called a Channeler as they channel Ifrit like power rather than summon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    I figured out the general idea of what you were saying.

    An Ifrit Materia or Esper could be used to summon the essence or the effect of Ifrit but to summon him it is to be expected that you can only do it once at any given time. It gives primal's a life of their own when they are treated as autonomous beings and not elements.

    The Summoner should really be called a Channeler as they channel Ifrit like power rather than summon.
    I suppose your last sentance is really the question, if we define it like that then FF11, from what i understand, would be a Channeler. So going by those definitions, do we prefer a Channeler or a Summoner for FF14?

    Personally, i'd rather have a Summoner, working in the bounds of what Yoshi-P has planned as far as we know, would cost us the big name summons. I'm fine with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    I suppose your last sentance is really the question, if we define it like that then FF11, from what i understand, would be a Channeler. So going by those definitions, do we prefer a Channeler or a Summoner for FF14?

    Personally, i'd rather have a Summoner, working in the bounds of what Yoshi-P has planned as far as we know, would cost us the big name summons. I'm fine with that.
    How about Channeler (Class) Summoner (Job). Channeler can use the mini-powers of the aeons and such as well as using elementals while Summoner can actually summon the aeons for the big godly burst of destruction as well as being able to summon slightly stronger versions of the elementals? I think that would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    How about Channeler (Class) Summoner (Job). Channeler can use the mini-powers of the aeons and such as well as using elementals while Summoner can actually summon the aeons for the big godly burst of destruction as well as being able to summon slightly stronger versions of the elementals? I think that would be awesome.
    Not a bad idea really. Gives ya some options atleast. Though i'm personally not a fan of having pet versions of Ifrit and such, atleast the discussion is going in a creative direction ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    Not a bad idea really. Gives ya some options atleast. Though i'm personally not a fan of having pet versions of Ifrit and such, atleast the discussion is going in a creative direction ^^
    Totally. I wasn't thinking of a pet version though. I was thinking more along the lines of what Yoshi is thinking with the whole summon them once for a big deal then they're gone until you get them again lol. As for the mini-powers, the channeler could use a materia like ability to use a lower power verison of the aeon's ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    How about Channeler (Class) Summoner (Job). Channeler can use the mini-powers of the aeons and such as well as using elementals while Summoner can actually summon the aeons for the big godly burst of destruction as well as being able to summon slightly stronger versions of the elementals? I think that would be awesome.
    I like this as well. Plus it's a nice fit with the current class/job system.
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