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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    You do realize all of the summons we have now had to be introduced at one point in time and all didn't exist from the start, right? Quezacotl appeared in 2 games, just like Garuda, so that pretty much puts him in Garuda territory as "not being a summon" -- Shiva doesn't exist in the terrain we have now so there's your answer.

    Also, Quezacotl took the place of Ramuh in FFVIII much like Ixion took the place of Ramuh in FFX.
    Ramuh >>>> Gardua, Ixion & Quetzacotl. I want the original summons back, i dont want none of those half assed summons that where introduced later on, Tho! The ones from XII do look badass <.<

    And bring SHIVA BACK!
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    Player Mijin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxOstiaxX View Post
    Ramuh >>>> Gardua, Ixion & Quetzacotl. I want the original summons back, i dont want none of those half assed summons that where introduced later on, Tho! The ones from XII do look badass <.<

    And bring SHIVA BACK!
    IIRC he used Shiva as an example for the horrible new primal system.

    Edit: Yeah he did:

    So one Ifrit, maybe one Shiva maybe one Ramuh, per world.
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    Ryujin Ketu
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    It's be cool if they somehow combined Beastmaster and Summoner. Here is what I mean: I think, outside of primals, it'd be cool if you could "tame the soul" or "obtain the soul" of enemies you kill (like FF13) that way everybody could customize to their play style and their likes. Yes I know everyone would eventually have the same creatures to summon but not everyone would have the same ones out
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    So you're whole linkshell goes out gets the summon spends ages building it's power or whatever.

    Then some random ls member soloing inferno tapers or something equally mundane is about die, panics and hits the summon button in an attempt to save his ass.

    LOL
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    Last edited by Dzian; 08-08-2012 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    you're whole linkshell goes out gets the summon then some random member who almost died soloing inferno tapers or something equally mundane hits the summon button in an attempt to save his ass.
    ROFL.. I can just see it now..

    Um.. Hey, guys.. yeah.. you know... about that Ifrit summon... I had a little issue the other day.
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    Proud owner of a Goobbue Mount

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    To be honest, even after they supposedly "cleared up" the way the summoning system is going to work, the description is still extremely vague. I think I'll probably wait until they explain it in detail before I decide.
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    i do feel it cheapen their value to have personal avatar, for example a goat defeating ifrit? lol it looked silly in FFXI and would be here too.
    personally i feel summoner class need a fresh approach , why not make the avatar lend their power to the summoner and channel their power through him/her? the summoner get new look and fight physically instead of standing in the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJackal View Post
    i do feel it cheapen their value to have personal avatar, for example a goat defeating ifrit? lol it looked silly in FFXI and would be here too.
    personally i feel summoner class need a fresh approach , why not make the avatar lend their power to the summoner and channel their power through him/her? the summoner get new look and fight physically instead of standing in the back.
    I feel the same way, which is why I like it that they are getting lesser primals as summons. Though I can definitely see it being cool where lets say the summoner job gets summons but the class gets manifestations letting them use skills like garuda's splitstream or something.
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    Last edited by Dawiichan; 08-08-2012 at 10:12 AM.

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    Natsume Shinto
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJackal View Post
    i do feel it cheapen their value to have personal avatar, for example a goat defeating ifrit? lol it looked silly in FFXI and would be here too.
    In FFXI It makes sense that a Summoner summoning an avatar would only be able to summon it as the same strength as the Summoner. Summoners are basically channeling the avatar into the world through them, hence the constant MP drain and the avatar being the same level as the Summoner.
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    It's a very poor idea. You will have large linkshells (mainly japaneese) over taing control of them and having seekign parties after use time. Or large groups of RMT's controlling them.

    It will end up to controlled. It will also result in tension with linkshells, the person gettign last hit controls for the group, setting summon time.

    Drops need to be very low in rate in this case, and No tradable/sellable as well if said HNM is defated with a summon.
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