The issue with short-term content

[PercibelTheren]

What would keep you farming content past obtaining X? What do you think would keep others farming content past obtaining X?

I don't think the game is being designed for people who hate it (no matter what impression the forums leave). It's being designed for players who like it but also like playing other games. Play until satisfied, then go play other games, then come back for new content.

Is that such a terrible thing?

If it comes to the point it has now where the content is being drip fed to us so slowly people leave for months and years at a time, kinda? Especially considering this is a game that requires a subscription.

[Daralii]

What would keep you farming content past obtaining X? What do you think would keep others farming content past obtaining X?

How many of those single content F2P games have the same players now as they had 4 years ago and how many of those players are driven by a new X being added to collect as opposed to enjoying the content?

I don't think the game is being designed for people who hate it (no matter what impression the forums leave). It's being designed for players who like it but also like playing other games. Play until satisfied, then go play other games, then come back for new content.

Is that such a terrible thing?

The game makes up such a huge chunk of Square's annual income that it kind of is for them. If you don't do savage/ultimate prog on-content for fun, patches are so infrequent and light nowadays that you get the best experience out of the game by playing through X.0, unsubbing until X.5 comes out about 2 years later, playing through what's been added, and then because that definitely won't take 4 1/2 months, you unsub again until X+1.0 assuming you still care by that point.

[Wolfsbane706]

Established players don't like doing old content. This is a tale as old as MMOs.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I wouldnt call Eureka or Bozja dead but at the same time I don't know why we need new content. Surely they could just expand on the existing and make each weapon the base of the new zone. That way it always breathes life into one area.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I wouldnt call Eureka or Bozja dead but at the same time I don't know why we need new content. Surely they could just expand on the existing and make each weapon the base of the new zone. That way it always breathes life into one area.

If it requires doing all of the prior content to get to the newest version, then people will be mad about it. Just look at how many were ticked off at having to do Hildebrand to get to the Endwalker relics, and that can be mostly wrapped up in a couple hours by skipping cutscenes. Imagine how angry people would be if they had to grind out all of Eureka's current zones to get to new content.

[Pip_Chick]

I can't understand how devs are so pushed to releasing content without giving a second thought on how we can extend this content longevity,

Why we have content that is good until I got X then it will be dead content?

aside from Gold saucer which is in my opinion best thing they did I can go back each time and farm something, lottery, mini games which is not part of battle content.

Content like Eurerka and Bozja was such a waste, they were good at release until its dead with no reason to back there.

Content like criterion dungeon it is just a tragedy, it was a waste even on release.

Why not thinking of how we extend this game mode to next expansions and give people a reason to farm content?

I have seen F2P games that utilize 1 game mode for more than 4 years and you can find people doing it now.

it is like they designed the content for people who hates the game and return when there is something new for fomo.... but why? I don't think this is unintentional.

Bozja and Eureka are not a waste at all. They have fulfilled and still fulfil their purpose to this day. While not as populated as on day one, they have plenty of people who engage with them daily. I went in the other day in Zadnoir, and there were lots of people farming it.

[Nero-Voidstails]

not gonna lie tho I do see variant dungeon behind a normal dungeon idea could give way more stuff to do and give you a reason to redo then other then glam

[Kaurhz]

I don't disagree in premise, but...

Eureka and Bozja have some of the strongest longevity of any piece of content released in this game, period.

It's not as popular as it was on launch, but that is hardly a surprise, really. Any piece of content is going to wain over time, but both Eureka and Bozja have stood that test and have enough players and popularity to actually be a good experience.

[KillaKilala]

I want them to add legendary weapons and armor. We have pteranodon mount that requires 500000 skyward points for each DoL job and hunt mounts that requires you to kill thousands of marks that you can’t even grind, because you need to spawn them first and the spawn rate has a cd, why can’t we have something similar to farm gear? I also want gear to last longer, you spend MONTHS farming your bis and you have no use for it other than ultimates, assuming you do them. And even if you do, when the next patch come out you just throw away your hard earned gear and replace it with crafted gear that you can craft in an hour… That always makes me question myself what for did I farm my bis? Sure raids are fun to do, but I also wanna be rewarded and I don’t care about glam.

[Jojoya]

I want them to add legendary weapons and armor. We have pteranodon mount that requires 500000 skyward points for each DoL job and hunt mounts that requires you to kill thousands of marks that you can’t even grind, because you need to spawn them first and the spawn rate has a cd, why can’t we have something similar to farm gear? I also want gear to last longer, you spend MONTHS farming your bis and you have no use for it other than ultimates, assuming you do them. And even if you do, when the next patch come out you just throw away your hard earned gear and replace it with crafted gear that you can craft in an hour… That always makes me question myself what for did I farm my bis? Sure raids are fun to do, but I also wanna be rewarded and I don’t care about glam.

If you want gear to have more longevity, that means removing gear as a reward from most content so the gear you do get will last longer.

What are you then expecting to be rewarded with since it would no longer be gear?