Limit Housing to help solve some potential issues?

[ElysiumDragon]

I mean, the solution's pretty obvious, but SE doesn't want to do it for some reason.

Instead of taking away the housing, just make the obvious sub methods non-viable, and the sub shacks become a burden upon whoever owns them. Having to pay for multiple service accounts to maintain tens, if not hundreds of useless properties just isn't worth it, let alone the burden of resetting the demo timer on said useless properties.

[Rinoa_353]

I mean, the solution's pretty obvious, but SE doesn't want to do it for some reason.

Instead of taking away the housing, just make the obvious sub methods non-viable, and the sub shacks become a burden upon whoever owns them. Having to pay for multiple service accounts to maintain tens, if not hundreds of useless properties just isn't worth it, let alone the burden of resetting the demo timer on said useless properties.

I also support detaching the submarine farming from housing in general and attach it to the GC, then it would really make owning those sub shacks worthless in most worlds.

[WinglessSeraphim]

I mean, the solution's pretty obvious, but SE doesn't want to do it for some reason.

Instead of taking away the housing, just make the obvious sub methods non-viable, and the sub shacks become a burden upon whoever owns them. Having to pay for multiple service accounts to maintain tens, if not hundreds of useless properties just isn't worth it, let alone the burden of resetting the demo timer on said useless properties.

You'll find that those sub owners will still keep their plots. Don't think that they would be considered a burden just because the gil isn't coming in anymore. Some of them would consider it a relief and some even hope that salvage gets nerfed.

[Shnrnr]

I have a feeling that as long as players can hoard houses, players will hoard houses, even without the incentive of sub gil. It's frustrating that SE clearly stated way back in 2018 that "Players will be permitted to own only one private and one free company estate per World per service account". I wish they had stuck with that rule and enforced it in the code.

[Solowing]

I have a feeling that as long as players can hoard houses, players will hoard houses, even without the incentive of sub gil. It's frustrating that SE clearly stated way back in 2018 that "Players will be permitted to own only one private and one free company estate per World per service account". I wish they had stuck with that rule and enforced it in the code.

They do. But you're trying to ask in a roundabout way to strip plots of people who were grandfathered in.

Ruled changed yes , but you can't retroactively punish them for what the system allowed at one point. They now have to follow the rules set by s.e to retain their plots now.

Having a seperate service account does affect.supply but s.e consideres that account a seperate player and doesn't violate housing rules

[Shnrnr]

They do. But you're trying to ask in a roundabout way to strip plots of people who were grandfathered in.

Ruled changed yes , but you can't retroactively punish them for what the system allowed at one point. They now have to follow the rules set by s.e to retain their plots now.

Having a seperate service account does affect.supply but s.e consideres that account a seperate player and doesn't violate housing rules

The issue is that the system continues to allow it. It's currently possible to acquire multiple FC houses on a single server on a single account using alts, which is why the wards on new Dynamis worlds are all filling up with sub shacks.

And I'm not suggesting that anyone's houses should be taken away. I would just like to see SE enforce the 1 fc/1 personal house rule going forward. My suggestion about auto-demoing FC houses owned by multi-owners was more for newly acquired houses if SE ever carves that rule in stone, because there may still be legitimate cases when an FC house is transferred to a character on an account that already owns an FC house.

[Khryseis_Astra]

And I'm not suggesting that anyone's houses should be taken away. I would just like to see SE enforce the 1 fc/1 personal house rule going forward. My suggestion about auto-demoing FC houses owned by multi-owners was more for newly acquired houses if SE ever carves that rule in stone, because there may still be legitimate cases when an FC house is transferred to a character on an account that already owns an FC house.

I think that’s the issue right there… how do they still keep that function for the cases it’s truly needed, without leaving it open to abuse? This is why it’s allowed, but you can definitely make the argument that it’s not the intent of the system, since you need 4 members to start an FC to bid for housing. Still, they’re not going to have someone check every instance of this happening… that could be the equivalent of several full-time jobs. So what sort of automation could they employ? I don’t have an answer to that.

Which is why I’m in favor of solutions that add rather than take away… like instanced housing in addition to the wards. While I do think that putting the workshops somewhere like the GC could be a positive idea, I don’t think it’s going to stop house hoarders from hoarding in more than a handful of cases. Some people just want a place to decorate, and people that enjoy that naturally want more spaces to decorate. lol I’d love multiple houses and spaces myself, but I’m not willing to take up limited resources in order to do it! They need to look at the player base and give more options so that everyone has the opportunity to enjoy the full range of player housing.