Is it time to Sunset FFXIV?

[Feathetaria]

I play this game for Story, Socializing and Housing. If i wanted to play an mmo for its combat and gearing, I would go back to WoW Classic, where upgrading to better gear is insanely rewarding and can feel like night and day when you finally obtain that epic weapon or trinket you've been wanting (and then you go annihilate some players with it in pvp). Even world drops in WoW make adventuring in the world and leveling up more rewarding. I feel like ffxiv has 0 rare items in the old zones and dungeons, no world drops. Also there are no specs / talent builds. Everyone is same.

FFXIV players are literally missing out because the devs never put any super rare items in the game that unexpectedly show up making everyone freak out and say "OMG WHAT?!?!? NO WAY!!! WTF! IT DROPPED". Whether it's in the world or in a dungeon, the only "rare" things i've seen in this game are locked to a certain boss. I think what it comes down to is that i wish "Trash mobs" had more meaning in the game other than just being a roadblock. Trashmobs don't even drop gear, you don't even have to loot them, and gear doesn't even have different qualities like common, rare, epic, etc. Stats are bland and as a lvl 90 ninja i feel like i could gain 1000 dex mid combat and i wouldn't even notice the difference because i feel like I am hitting with a rolled up piece of paper for a weapon anyway. Hypothetically, if i wanted to PVE and PVP Seriously and Commit, why would i want to raid in FFXIV and get a new BiS Rolled Up Paper weapon when i could be playing WoW TBC Classic on a Private Server and get Warglaives of Azzinoth, then make everyone jealous in pve and scared of me in pvp as I wield incredible power that so few players have?

I don't plan to ever play WoW again. I love FFXIV and am here to stay, but I can also say that without a major Itemization and Combat Overhaul, I 1000% will not be investing into this game's pve and pvp. I will continue to just do MSQ for Story while I continue to be a Housing Design Addict and Social Butterfly ♥<3

[klu]

No.

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[SaltyDaddy]

I feel like the game (Devs, writers, etc..) has painted itself into a corner. Maybe it's time to focus on the next MMO and start over. This one isn't fun anymore and I don't know how we can recover from it. They whole formula that it was built upon is stagnant. The game shouldn't drop to a lull in things to do and play time just in a few months after the release of a major expansion.. the brand is suffering.

This reminds me of a lot of WOW players screaming for WOW 2. But if the devs of said "WOW 2" would be same, as previous one... would it be trully better?

[AnimaAnimus]

This reminds me of a lot of WOW players screaming for WOW 2. But if the devs of said "WOW 2" would be same, as previous one... would it be trully better?

I mean technically FFXIV is already their second MMO or "WoW2" and it's vastly different and no where near the same as the first since they just went in completely different directions. The first was too hard (for some, for most is was amazing), the second is too soft, maybe the third could be just right. In fact the only reason we got our "WoW2" is because FFXI is so embedded in playonline they couldn't update it graphically ot give us a new UI and what not. They debated but decided they literally needed to start from scratch. More of the same though it is not. In fact in as many ways as XIV was an upgrade it was also a downgrade.

That being said I don't think we are at the point that needs to happen....yet. And SE in 2024 is not the same as SE in 2001. I just don't think they got it in them anymore since they can't even get their single player FF games, or really any games looking at their track recond lately, right these days.

[SaltyDaddy]

I mean technically FFXIV is already their second MMO or "WoW2" and it's vastly different and no where near the same as the first since they just went in completely different directions. The first was too hard (for some, for most is was amazing), the second is too soft, maybe the third could be just right. In fact the only reason we got our "WoW2" is because FFXI is so embedded in playonline they couldn't update it graphically ot give us a new UI and what not. They debated but decided they literally needed to start from scratch. More of the same though it is not. In fact in as many ways as XIV was an upgrade it was also a downgrade.

That being said I don't think we are at the point that needs to happen....yet. And SE in 2024 is not the same as SE in 2001. I just don't think they got it in them anymore since they can't even get their single player FF games, or really any games looking at their track recond lately, right these days.

That would mean replacing Yoshida and the rest of the lead, you know that? You haven't disproven anything I said.
If current leadership would want to change the game, they can. They don't need to make new MMO.

[sindriiisgaming]

I feel like the game (Devs, writers, etc..) has painted itself into a corner. Maybe it's time to focus on the next MMO and start over. This one isn't fun anymore and I don't know how we can recover from it. They whole formula that it was built upon is stagnant. The game shouldn't drop to a lull in things to do and play time just in a few months after the release of a major expansion.. the brand is suffering.

calling for ffxiv to terminate service after only this 1 bad expansion is honestly weak. I personally would not be happy with 14s service terminating, and i know many others wouldn't either. i think if your unhappy with the game, release yourself from it and find something you do enjoy.

[Talael]

With Yoshida having the sotory of 10.0 ready and wanting to have 20 more years of FFXIV, i can say the sunset thing is not going to happen. Lets just hope the game gets better.

[SWATomega]

In game design you don't always hit the mark, the community is split on how the story went, characters, etc. However, The devs for FFXIV have been good to the community over the years, with support and content. THe game will be fine, we will have those who will rage and fume in the moment but they will cool down.

I still like Dawntrail and FFXIV, the game still good, we are only in the first few months of it and it is way too early IMO to call the expansion to be bad untill all the content is out.

[Sensui]

Taken about a month off the game and having a blast playing other games.. even ESO, janky as it is, always has something that at least feels meaningful to keep you busy.

Looking at 7.1 and onward... more content drought ahead. There isn't enough there to do...

I think this is the end.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Taken about a month off the game and having a blast playing other games.. even ESO, janky as it is, always has something that at least feels meaningful to keep you busy.

Looking at 7.1 and onward... more content drought ahead. There isn't enough there to do...

I think this is the end.

ESO is even worse with content drought than XIV. They literally cut content in HALF, spending entire quarters that used to have content as "bug fixes." They removed content that used to come with expansions and are now selling it in another quarter for money.

ESO has a lot of issues and a player exodus. Unless you just drop in once in a while, it absolutely feels stagnant and there are a lot of people realizing this right now.